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Old 04-17-2012, 12:16 AM   #15
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Think about how you plan to use it, lots of inside cooking, weeks worth of groceries in fridge, need a bed and a table inside full time? Or just a place to shower, sleep and maybe make your morning coffee?

I agree with the comments on generators, battery for LED lights, solar for charging, propane for fridge, heat and cooking. Might want double propane tanks, a week of fridge and hot water on one tank is a stretch. Generator for backup and maybe air conditioning if the climate is really hot. All electric would mean hauling a lot of fuel.

That ground clearence thing is important if the terrain is at all rough, have seen more than one scamp with scrapes on the bottom back edge from backing into a steep incline but doubt it would be an issue in most campgrounds, would be at a construction site or in national forest. Scamp I expect are a bit more aerodynamic being a little lower.
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:13 AM   #16
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As to Scamp's smaller bed size, if you get a Deluxe they have larger 54" beds instead of the standard 44" bed.
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:13 AM   #17
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Hey Clearcut!! Thanks for asking the same questions I have.

I was looking at pictures of small stick built trailers but they just look flimsy and boxy. Kalispell is the model available here.

I like the Scamp, but it looks too low to the ground. I'd have to talk to some of our local artisan mechanics about changing the axle so it would ride higher. I think that's what would have to be done.

I looked at an Eriba Puck Sunday, but it was beyond my skills to fix.

There was a used Scamp, but it was priced the same as a new one. I looked at a 13 foot Bigfoot, but it seemed too low and I didn't think about the axle solution.

I do not plan on being near electrical hookups all the time and I do not care for generator noise.

The Escape seemed very spendy. I'll have to look again. There would be paperwork with that, wouldn't there? Maybe mass quantities?

Tis a hard process....
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After 11 years, I think Escape has the paperwork down pat, or deliver to your doorstep. They have a 2 Yr warranty, I kinda like that. Have fun shopping
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:34 AM   #19
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Hey Clearcut!! Thanks for asking the same questions I have.

I like the Scamp, but it looks too low to the ground. I'd have to talk to some of our local artisan mechanics about changing the axle so it would ride higher. I think that's what would have to be done.
It's not just the axle, the wheel well is probably too small to allow for a larger tire, or at least much larger. I think I have seen some mods on this site that manage a couple more inches of ground clearence. As I recall required a new axle on the 13ft version. There was an extreme mod for a rock climber that had great ground clearence but that involved a wheel well mod
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:07 PM   #20
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Hey Clearcut!!
The Escape seemed very spendy. I'll have to look again. There would be paperwork with that, wouldn't there? Maybe mass quantities?
The paperwork is not a big deal - actually pretty simple and straight forward. The sheer number of Escape's that have found a home south of the border is a pretty good indicator of that.
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:48 PM   #21
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I put a 45 degree down angle Dexter axle on my Scamp. It sits so high, I put on a welded step and run ST205/75 R15 tires/wheels. So, I have first hand knowledge that you can raise the trailer with an axle and put on larger tires.
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:12 AM   #22
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Yes, Donna, you have lots of clearance under that 16-foot Scamp!

I visited the Spring NOG last year and took this picture. I drove down for the day to look at the trailers. I was working on my 1977 13-foot Scamp and it wasn't ready for that Spring NOG.

It should be ready this time. Just 8 more days before I head that way. I'll be in A12.

See you then,

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Old 04-18-2012, 06:33 PM   #23
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I put a 45 degree down angle Dexter axle on my Scamp. It sits so high, I put on a welded step and run ST205/75 R15 tires/wheels. So, I have first hand knowledge that you can raise the trailer with an axle and put on larger tires.
EXACTLY what I wanted, the other posts I had read and folks I asked made it out to be a major modification to get tire clearence. Extra framing to drop the axle and custom wheel well to get tire clearence. I'm in a 13ft and you have a 16ft might that have made a difference? Are the original tire size on a 16ft bigger than a 13ft?

What weight range of Dexter axle did you get? I'm thinking you would need the 2300 - 3500 lbs axle for a 16ft. Did you use the high profile mount? Wonder if the 1000 - 2200 lbs axle would be enough for a 13ft.

I had all but given up hope of getting back to the places I have camped for years due to not having the ground clearence.
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:07 PM   #24
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Roger, my Scamp is 24 years old and has the deluxe (wood) interior. I purchased the 3500 lb axle because I wanted plenty of margin (loaded [no water] for four days camping it weighs 2150 lbs). It tows wonderfully well. No sway, no buffeting. I was concerned it might be "tippy," because of the height. But, so far... no problems whatsoever and I tow on some pretty curvey roads. My Scamp came from the factory with 13" tires (and that's what was one it when I bought it 10 years ago). I can measure the wheel well over the weekend... just not tonight if you think it would help. HAD I KNOWN THEN, WHAT I KNOW NOW, I would have gone with a 22 degree down and added a spacer between the frame and axle. ONLY because I have something else in mind for the plumbing and the axle is right now smack up against the floor.

Just remember whatever you do between the axle and the frame does not change the distance between the axle tube and the ground. That only happens with the "down." There again, I'd be glad to measure the distance between the axle and the ground with my setup if you'd like... but it won't be until the weekend.

Let me know what you need, always glad to help if I can.

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Old 04-19-2012, 01:39 AM   #25
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Hey Clearcut!! Thanks for asking the same questions I have.

I like the Scamp, but it looks too low to the ground. I'd have to talk to some of our local artisan mechanics about changing the axle so it would ride higher. I think that's what would have to be done.


I do not plan on being near electrical hookups all the time and I do not care for generator noise.


Tis a hard process....
I have a 13' Scamp. The low to the ground isn't a problem. I've been in many places over all types of road and it's not a problem. I recently went through some very strong side winds (big old sand storm). I checked the trail a couple of times when strong gusts hit us. It stayed solid, higher I'm not so sure it would have been as solid.

I don't own a generator. Just got back from 3 months of wander around the southwest. We had electricity a total of 4 nights. I do have a portable 65 Watt solar panel that I use to keep two batteries charged. All the standard lights were changed to LED. I added two LED light fixtures and on Cold Cathode Florescent light fixture. All lights on draw about what one incandescent light draws. The only other thing that draws power from the battery is the furnace fan. I plugged the solar panel in every 3 or 4 days when sitting in one place that long.
FYI the second battery powers my ham radio, plus is used to charge camera batteries, etc.

We've had the Scamp for 6 1/2 years. Spent over 100 night each of the past three years in it. Been on some pretty rough roads and few smooth roads.
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:02 AM   #26
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RogerDat:

Here's a message by Kevin K telling what Dexter axle he put on the 1981 Scamp 13-foot that he just sold. Click on the picture of the raised trailer and it will get bigger:

Need to replace axle on 81 13' Scamp

Then there is a Picasa web site with 119 pictures that show how Brady and Jenny restored their Boler. I'm not sure what axle they used but it looks to me to be a 22.5 degree down mounted it on what looks like a 4-inch high channel with the arms facing rearward. Here's a link to a FGRV thread on that one:

Total Boler Restoration

The picture below is their Boler WAY up in the air.
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:29 PM   #27
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As I have mentioned before, we have a 16' Scamp. I have never had it scrape on anything. I would be nice to have it up higher, just to be able to get 14" or even 15" tires. Not to have up tall, but to perhaps get better tire life.

We do have a generator, small, quite for a generator (Honda 2000i); we'd gotten used to having on when we had a C-Class MH. Nice to have when it has been 100 degrees or better when traveling & when backing up to leave. If not for the AC, shouldn't really need one. Many people have gone to solar, but not so easy if possible to use the AC on solar (unless one had a very large system.

We do enjoy the convenience of using a microwave at times & my wife enjoys having a hair dryer.

There are anti-gererator people and there are many who are still using them, I know many did this summer when we were camping up in the mountains. Not for AC, but for electric heaters, etc. I would believe. As well as charging up batteries.

But one can live without them for sure.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:16 PM   #28
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I don't know which will serve you best, but I keep looking for one of those "chicken coop" models for a project I have in mind..
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