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Old 06-27-2012, 05:06 PM   #15
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I tow with an All Wheel drive Outback and I can tell you it is a very solid tow. I have towed with other vehicles such as trucks in the past and all I can say is the Outback is surprisingly solid tow, actually better than a truck I once towed with.

Have a hunch though if the trailer has brakes and it weigh in at or under the tow weight specs set by Subaru you will find the car will handle the trailer just fine. Hope that helps.
I'm with Carol on this one. We too have used a truck and our car towing the 23' Airstream feels better/more stable. You need to get the connection right and brakes on the trailer is highly disirable.

There is a good talk here about a guy who towed his 10' pop up with a 4 cyl Camry. A pro set up got him a custom hitch and WDH. That is what we use too. Works! RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Towing a 10' Popup with a Toyota Camry
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:18 PM   #16
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A pro set up got him a custom hitch and WDH. ]
A note to the OP - Subaru does not recommend the use of WDH (Weight Distribution Hitch) on their vehicles.
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A note to the OP - Subaru does not recommend the use of WDH (Weight Distribution Hitch) on their vehicles.
Correct. Their factory receivers are not strong enough to support the leverage from the WDH. That is why a custom heavy duty receiver would be required.

This is a custom receiver being installed on a Sub. Quite a difference between custom and factory.
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Is your car a 4 wheel drive or an All wheel Drive?

I tow with an All Wheel drive Outback and I can tell you it is a very solid tow.
I'm pretty sure all Subarus these days are 4wd in the US market. The new sports car BRZ being a notable exception.

And in this case it's very important to make the distinction between an "Outback" which is based on the larger Legacy chassis with a lifted suspension and the "Outback Sport" which is an appearance package on the smaller Impreza that mostly changes the look of the car. The tow rating between an Outback and an Outback Sport could be quite significant.

Been researching Subarus lately.
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Old 06-27-2012, 06:08 PM   #19
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Ok, here is the site which shows my car specs:

2011 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport Base 4dr All-wheel Drive Hatchback Specs

It is an all wheel drive and weighs over 4K lbs. I do have a receiver hitch which I had installed. The seller is going to weigh the unit. The unit does not have brakes.

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.............. it added that trailer brakes must be used for trailers over 1000 lb. Not a big deal for me because adding brakes was in my plans anyway. They're surprisingly cheap.
Not cheap if the axle doesn't have the mounting flange.
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Not cheap if the axle doesn't have the mounting flange.
Thx, Good to know. Waiting on a quote with having to ad the flange
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Ok, here is the site which shows my car specs:

2011 Subaru Impreza Outback Sport Base 4dr All-wheel Drive Hatchback Specs

It is an all wheel drive and weighs over 4K lbs. I do have a receiver hitch which I had installed. The seller is going to weigh the unit. The unit does not have brakes.

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Careful reading the specs. It weighs about 3108 empty (probably some gas in it), the 4,190 is the MAXIMUM weight you shouldn't exceed. That should be measured with the trailer on the hitch.

Curb weight vs Gross weight, important difference there.
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Thx, Good to know. Waiting on a quote with having to ad the flange
On Scamps I think it's rare that you can just weld the flange on. Some axles have hubs that allow that, but I'm not clear how popular those are.

I couldn't weld the flanges on my hubs and needed a whole new axle. But the new axle and brakes were less than $400, before installation anyway, installation wasn't cheap.
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Correct. Their factory receivers are not strong enough to support the leverage from the WDH. That is why a custom heavy duty receiver would be required.

This is a custom receiver being installed on a Sub. Quite a difference between custom and factory.
Actually this is totally incorrect. Subaru only started putting their own receivers on their cars in the past 2 years but the no WDH rule had been in effect long before. It's actually an issue with how a WDH impacts their all wheel drive system.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:56 PM   #25
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Actually this is totally incorrect. Subaru only started putting their own receivers on their cars in the past 2 years but the no WDH rule had been in effect long before. It's actually an issue with how a WDH impacts their all wheel drive system.
Interesting.

All the WDH does is transfer some of the weight from the back of the vehicle to the front of the vehicle. As long as one doesn't over load the specs on the axle weight ratings there shouldn't be any problems.

There are a lot of 4wd Subs using WDH's. No problems that we have heard of. There can be an issue with the Subs using a WDH and the factory air suspension but that is a different story.
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Interesting.

All the WDH does is transfer some of the weight from the back of the vehicle to the front of the vehicle. As long as one doesn't over load the specs on the axle weight ratings there shouldn't be any problems.

There are a lot of 4wd Subs using WDH's. No problems that we have heard of. There can be an issue with the Subs using a WDH and the factory air suspension but that is a different story.
At the end of the day the bottom line is the people who build the car clearly in the manual state " Do not use with any type of weight distribution hitch" highlighted. Personally I will take their word for it rather than those who are speculating as to the reasons why.
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If the Trillium does not exceed the Subaru's tow weight and hitch weight limitations, the combo should be ok IMO. With AWD and low center of gravity, the Subaru will handle an appropriate trailer very well. I hope the numbers are favorable for you.
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thanks Mike; waiting for an exact weight on unit and tongue.
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