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Old 06-27-2017, 07:56 PM   #29
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As long as Lil Snoozy is able to sell all the trailers they care to manufacture, why add propane, which is the equivalent of another plumbing system. A plumbing system that can explode or burn up trailers, so there is additional liability. Seems like I've heard about industry certifications necessary for propane systems. Certainly, eliminating it lowers the price point at which they can sell their trailers and earn a profit.
I think I saw a post here within the past week about a Lil Snoozy owner who had added propane. No doubt there are many owners that carry stoves and lanterns to cook outside anyway. There's a large universe of DIY van conversions. I expect most do not have plumbed in propane. All that said, I'd want my trailer to have propane.
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Old 06-27-2017, 09:21 PM   #30
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If there's a trailer that's perfect for everyone, I haven't seen it. The key is to get the one that's perfect for you. There are trade-offs no matter what you choose, and many of those have been mentioned in this thread. That's a good thing.
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Old 06-27-2017, 10:06 PM   #31
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Interestingly, at the last event I went to, the subject came up about using propane. What they didn't like about propane was that it made the trailer sweat creating mildew and having to use the vent fan all the time to help exhaust the excess moisture. What they did like about it was that they could heat up water to make coffee.

Also, many preferred the butane camp stoves they could bring outside over the inside propane stoves.

I don't have propane, and so far have not found that I miss it or need it.
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Old 06-28-2017, 12:31 AM   #32
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Interestingly, at the last event I went to, the subject came up about using propane. What they didn't like about propane was that it made the trailer sweat creating mildew
What they needed to do is stop breathing. That's where the moisture was coming from.
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Old 06-28-2017, 06:04 AM   #33
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Propane gas, when burned, produces by-products. This includes nitrogen dioxide, carbon monoxide, and water vapor. If the water vapor emissions are in excess of what the area in your tt can exhaust, you will have excess moisture in your tt. Propane 101.
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Old 06-28-2017, 06:59 AM   #34
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Propane gas when burned produces by-products. This includes water vapor, carbon monoxide, and nitrogen dioxide. If the water vapor emissions are in excess of what the area in your tt can exhaust, you will have excess moisture in your tt. Propane 101.
Wow, you no propane guys are really stretching the justifications for not having propane in your trailers. Common sense 101 says when using propane to cook open a window or turn on the exhaust fan. Mold/mildew build up from propane use over time is beyond laughable.

Again, propane is no more dangerous than electricity but far more environmentally friendly than running a generator. Having propane in an RV is all pluses, no minuses, saves you lots of money while camping or traveling (non electric sites are really cheap!). It's a bonus if you have it, gives you options. Please quit making lame excuses for not having it.
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Old 06-28-2017, 08:09 AM   #35
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Propane furnace and refrigerator exhaust directly to the outside... I prefer having a second source of heat, refrigeration and cooking. Assuming everywhere you camp will have 120 hookups limits choices. Here in western NC many of the public campgrounds have no hookups.
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Old 06-28-2017, 08:32 AM   #36
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As others have mentioned, the choice between all electric & propane depends on how you camp. I like to spend the winter in the Arizona desert at BLM Long Term Camping areas. No utilities, no need for air conditioning, but heat at night is nice.

I can supply all the electricity I need with 355 watts of solar, but running the refrigerator or providing heat would be a problem with an electric only rig since I don't carry a generator. I've gone 91 days without hookups (other than a short drive to dump & get water every couple of weeks).
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Old 06-28-2017, 09:41 AM   #37
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I just spent time on the escape website and will be calling them tomorrow....i thought i had seen that in October a rally is in Cherokee NC and i also the outer banks. I definitely want to get to a rally, any recommendations for 2017?
Look here for upcoming rallies. There are several near you.
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Wow, you no propane guys are really stretching the justifications for not having propane in your trailers. Common sense 101 says when using propane to cook open a window or turn on the exhaust fan. Mold/mildew build up from propane use over time is beyond laughable.

Again, propane is no more dangerous than electricity but far more environmentally friendly than running a generator. Having propane in an RV is all pluses, no minuses, saves you lots of money while camping or traveling (non electric sites are really cheap!). It's a bonus if you have it, gives you options. Please quit making lame excuses for not having it.
While I agree with your conclusions, I don't necessarily agree with how they're expressed. I'd suggest we keep it a bit more civil, but that's just me.

There's no moisture buildup from the propane when we cook indoors, as much from the cooking itself - particularly boiling water for example. But yes, we do open the window in the kitchen, and we also use the range hood fan to exhaust excess moisture. It's not propane 101, it's cooking in an enclosed space 101.

I particularly agree with the statement that non electric sites will save you money. They do - alot. The only time we want or need an electric site is If we want to run the AC. That's not too common for us, as we avoid camping when it's too hot.
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I really appreciate all the different opinions or maybe I should say experiences from all of you guys! I have taken many notes and now have a more intelligent list of questions when I visit or talk with the different manufacturers or for sale by owner.
When I started this post, I was sure of one thing only, that was a 17' trailer! Now I am debating between 19' or 21', so the search goes on as I am waiting on the rally that will be in Cherokee in October. I have gotten a couple really nice people that said I could come and look at there trailer at most anytime, I plan on doing that so that I can see in person and not just on the computer screen. I am in Greensboro NC if anyone has a trailer that i could look at, of course at your convenience.

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Wow, you no propane guys are really stretching the justifications for not having propane in your trailers.

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hahaha I think it's the other way around. Some very defensive propane people here! lol I surely didn't mean to offend propane users. I was just stating some comments I heard and facts I looked up.

For the record,

1) I was just repeating what I heard from about 40 people who have propane that were sitting around a campfire talking about what they liked and didn't like about propane, (the moisture and mildew), and I have no idea how or why they even started talking about propane and,

2) I was curious about the comment from the poster who said propane didn't give off moisture, people breathing did. So I looked it up. The gas company propane 101 manuals state that propane gives off moisture.

And for the record - I'm not a guy nor am I opposed to using propane. In fact, the only reason I don't have it is because my tt didn't come with it (I bought a showroom model), but it is sold as an accessory and I have been researching propane products myself to see if I need any.

lighten up guys, life is too short! We are all on the same team here trying to help each other out, hopefully by presenting facts and our experiences to those who ask, so they can make their own educated choices.
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Following is from a Canadian study and is in line with what I've read previously. And, as noted in earlier posts, the propane furnace and the propane fridge exhaust to the outside, not the interior of the trailer. If you cook on a propane stove, vapour will be released, mainly from the food, not the propane used.
This'll give you something to discuss around the fire:

In another project done some years ago, household occupancy was studied to determine the moisture production by people and the input rate of moisture for several types of household activities.4 Consideration was given to the activities of a family of four; it was found that although the activities of the residents may vary, the amount of water vapour produced by metabolic processes such as respiration and perspiration will average about 0.2 litres per hour or five litres per day. This is 1.25 litres per person per day.
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" I was curious about the comment from the poster who said propane didn't give off moisture, people breathing did. So I looked it up. The gas company propane 101 manuals state that propane gives off moisture. "

Burning any hydrocarbon based fuel gives off moisture. When it is controlled, this moisture is released outside your camper or enclosure (home, car, whatever). Burning gasoline generates moisture which is released out the tailpipe of the car, rather than into the interior of the car. Heating your home with natural gas releases moisture out the chimney, rather than into your home. So does a propane furnace and propane refrigerator. on a camper. Now portable propane heaters used indoors do generate a lot of moisture as will cooking with propane indoors. Portable propane heaters is a bigger problem as they tend to run longer than cooking time. And humans release a lot of moisture too, as others have noted.
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