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Old 03-08-2018, 05:43 AM   #15
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Hi Pete,

Welcome! Look forward to meeting you at GE&H VIII next week. We are in our 3rd season with our ‘05 Casita 17’ FD. LOVE IT!

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Old 03-08-2018, 07:31 AM   #16
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Hey Pete,

As dblcola posted, we have a 2003 Casita 17SD .

We do tow it with an 09 Ridgeline. It was born with AWD as were all Ridgelines those years. It does a great job of towing the Casita and near perfect as our "GO TO" vehicle for trips.

Our Casita is slightly modified to meet our needs. We bought it as the 3rd owners January 2011. It needed a lot of TLC.

I don't have the skills or patience or imagination to transform it to look like some of the beauties you will see at GE&H. But it suits us to a "T".

Come on by and visit us, site 015.

Should mention that dblcola has had just about every configuration of camper, there is. It looks like he is settling down with the Casita he purchased in the last few months.

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Old 03-08-2018, 09:26 AM   #17
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I have a 2013 Ridgeline that has towed first my Bigfoot and now my Escape, for 10,000 miles/year, Include a cross-continent round trip last Fall. Both trailers are heavier than a 17' Casita and the Ridgeline towed them with ease, including all over the Canadian Rockies. And BTW I use an anti sway bar but no WDH.
You'll have no problems.

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Old 03-08-2018, 03:02 PM   #18
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Hey Pete,

As dblcola posted, we have a 2003 Casita 17SD .

We do tow it with an 09 Ridgeline. It was born with AWD as were all Ridgelines those years. It does a great job of towing the Casita and near perfect as our "GO TO" vehicle for trips.

Our Casita is slightly modified to meet our needs. We bought it as the 3rd owners January 2011. It needed a lot of TLC.

I don't have the skills or patience or imagination to transform it to look like some of the beauties you will see at GE&H. But it suits us to a "T".

Come on by and visit us, site 015.

Should mention that dblcola has had just about every configuration of camper, there is. It looks like he is settling down with the Casita he purchased in the last few months.

kip
Kip, I've got the RTL-E with AWD. Robert in Tallahasse has a 2017 Ridgeline AWD and he says it tows his Casita 17 Independence with no problem. I will look you up at the Gathering.
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Old 03-08-2018, 03:32 PM   #19
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I have a 2013 Ridgeline that has towed first my Bigfoot and now my Escape, for 10,000 miles/year, Include a cross-continent round trip last Fall. Both trailers are heavier than a 17' Casita and the Ridgeline towed them with ease, including all over the Canadian Rockies. And BTW I use an anti sway bar but no WDH.
You'll have no problems.

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Walt, I'm confident my Ridgeline will tow a Casita. It's AWD and rated for 5,000 lbs. Hope to see you on the road one day.
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Old 03-08-2018, 03:51 PM   #20
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The issue with the Casita 17D is tongue weight, which can easily exceed 400 pounds. That limits how much cargo you can carry in the back of the Ridgeline without overloading the independent rear axle. Obviously others have made it work, but it is something to take into consideration as you plan.

If the Ridgeline is anything like my Pilot, Honda is very clear and detailed in the owner's manual about how passengers and cargo affect the tow ratings.
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Old 03-08-2018, 04:01 PM   #21
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The issue with the Casita 17D is tongue weight, which can easily exceed 400 pounds. That limits how much cargo you can carry in the back of the vehicle without overloading the independent rear axle. Obviously others have made it work, but it is something to take into consideration as you plan.

If the Ridgeline is anything like my Pilot, Honda is very clear and detailed in the owner's manual about how passengers and cargo affect the tow ratings.
Yup, the Ridgeline is actually a SUV (Pilot) disguised to look like a pickup.

If I recall correctly the tongue weight rating of my Ridgeline is 600 lb. The tongue weight on my Escape fully loaded, including full fresh water tank, measured at 410 lb.

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Old 03-08-2018, 04:15 PM   #22
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The tongue weight on my Escape fully loaded, including full fresh water tank, measured at 410 lb.

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My 17B tongue weight is 320 - 340 lbs loaded. Fresh water tank is aft of the axle so when full would unweight the tongue. Not sure how you manage to get to 410 lbs. Is there that much difference between 2008 and 2017?
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:04 PM   #23
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Tongue Weight

Never really thought about Tongue Weight. I'll look into it.
I will be carrying a 350 lb Honda CRF 250 L motorcycle in the truck bed.
Anyone hear of someone putting that much weight on the front or back of the Casita? It would free up the truck bed so I could put a cap or tonneau cover over the bed. Just a thought.
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My 17B tongue weight is 320 - 340 lbs loaded. Fresh water tank is aft of the axle so when full would unweight the tongue. Not sure how you manage to get to 410 lbs. Is there that much difference between 2008 and 2017?
Not sure. They are a new design, with new molds and all. And I have the front bin on the tongue well loaded.

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And I have the front bin on the tongue well loaded.

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That would do it. I don't have that bin.
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Never really thought about Tongue Weight. I'll look into it.
I will be carrying a 350 lb Honda CRF 250 L motorcycle in the truck bed.
Anyone hear of someone putting that much weight on the front or back of the Casita? It would free up the truck bed so I could put a cap or tonneau cover over the bed. Just a thought.
The cap or tonneau adds its own weight, especially a cap.

As to the bike, the truck bed is definitely the best place. Hanging it from the back of the trailer will reduce tongue weight and can cause the trailer to become unstable (sway). More important, I doubt the frame is designed to carry that much weight back there. It's not just the static load, but what happens when you hit a bump and the back of the trailer does a whoop-de-do. Putting it on the front doesn't solve anything, as most of the weight is on the tongue, which is supported by the truck's rear suspension. Besides, there'll be times you want to drop the trailer at your campsite and take the bike somewhere else to ride.

You need to do some careful math, guided by your owner's manual. By adjusting how you load the trailer, you can reduce the Casita's tongue weight somewhat, but I wouldn't count on anything less than 400 pounds. Whether that leaves enough payload to carry the bike is what you have to figure out.

Overloading the rear suspension is bad for steering and braking, and because it's an independent suspension, it may throw your alignment off enough to cause uneven tire wear. A light duty weight distributing hitch might be a solution, but that's above my pay grade. I've never used one. Honda "does not recommend" its use on the Pilot; I don't know about the Ridgeline.

Maybe you need an Escape 17B instead of a Casita 17D. According to the Trailer Weights in the Real World database (see the General Chat section), an Escape 17B averages 2974 pounds with 353 pounds tongue weight, while a Casita 17D averages 3278 pounds with 417 pounds tongue weight.
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That would do it. I don't have that bin.
Right. That front bin is a major plus for the Escape in my mind. I love it.

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The cap or tonneau adds its own weight, especially a cap.

As to the bike, the truck bed is definitely the best place. Hanging it from the back of the trailer will reduce tongue weight and can cause the trailer to become unstable (sway). More important, I doubt the frame is designed to carry that much weight back there. It's not just the static load, but what happens when you hit a bump and the back of the trailer does a whoop-de-do. Putting it on the front doesn't solve anything, as most of the weight is on the tongue, which is supported by the truck's rear suspension. Besides, there'll be times you want to drop the trailer at your campsite and take the bike somewhere else to ride.

You need to do some careful math, guided by your owner's manual. By adjusting how you load the trailer, you can reduce the Casita's tongue weight somewhat, but I wouldn't count on anything less than 400 pounds. Whether that leaves enough payload to carry the bike is what you have to figure out.

Overloading the rear suspension is bad for steering and braking, and because it's an independent suspension, it may throw your alignment off enough to cause uneven tire wear. A light duty weight distributing hitch might be a solution, but that's above my pay grade. I've never used one. Honda "does not recommend" its use on the Pilot; I don't know about the Ridgeline.

Maybe you need an Escape 17B instead of a Casita 17D. According to the Trailer Weights in the Real World database (see the General Chat section), an Escape 17B averages 2974 pounds with 353 pounds tongue weight, while a Casita 17D averages 3278 pounds with 417 pounds tongue weight.
"the Ridgeline can tow up to 5,000 pounds and haul up to 1,580 pounds"
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