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Old 10-28-2015, 03:51 PM   #15
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PS--surprise easter egg--meaning something good, or something bad? We can point out that the old toilet hole in the amerigo's front "bathroom" / closet is a real weak spot, susceptible to bad rot and if covered by thin ply and other flooring, can be surprisingly hard to detect until one really digs into it.
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Old 10-28-2015, 04:43 PM   #16
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Depending on what kind of a tow vehicle you have or plan to acquire, do not forget about those few small 5th wheel FG trailers in this category. They tow quite differently (better than) the normal trailers.
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Old 10-28-2015, 09:12 PM   #17
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I don't know of anyone in this group that is even coming close to running an all electric FGRV, including cooking, heating, hot water and refrigeration, solely off of solar power. The capacity just isn't there.


A buyers lack of skill and knowledge about inspecting a used FGRV should hardly hardly a indictment of any brand of new or vintage FGRV. And dealing with a dishonest seller... that's off the table.


We get about an even number of new members that say "I am looking for an FGRV tell me about it" and those that say "We just bought an FGRV, what do we need to know now". Needless to say, in the latter case the horse is already out of the barn and down the road, but in the former case, a lot of horses will be left in the barn.


But you are right, no one here would have told you to pull up the flooring, the ability to be able to sniff out items like that takes experience, experience and experience.


And manufacturers should take care of warranty and design fault issues, but the record for that isn't perfect either.
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Old 10-29-2015, 08:40 AM   #18
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There is a very helpful Buyer's Checklist available in the document center. It may help you avoid unpleasant surprises in a used unit. There are two documents in the link. The first is specific to vintage Bolers. The second is generic for any molded fiberglass trailer.

Used is actually a great way to start. Very few people know exactly what sort of trailer will work best for their own style of travel until they've gotten some experience. The market for used fiberglass trailers is such that you can often buy and sell with little loss (and sometimes even a tidy profit) if you find your first trailer isn't THE trailer.
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:24 AM   #19
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PS--surprise easter egg--meaning something good, or something bad? We can point out that the old toilet hole in the amerigo's front "bathroom" / closet is a real weak spot, susceptible to bad rot and if covered by thin ply and other flooring, can be surprisingly hard to detect until one really digs into it.
Just don't blame that "weak spot" problem on the original design or build. Amerigo only listed a "Portable Toilet" as an option. The selling dealer or a subsequent owner must have added a fixed loo of some sort. Probably something like the SeaLand toilet with holding tank Scamp uses, or a shorty loo on a holding tank base. like this:



In any case it sounds like it wasn't properly installed, allowing splashed up water or leaks to come up into the flooring over a period of some 40 years.

Even in the 70's, dealers would often do a quicky install of accessories, with the attitude that the rig would only last 5-7 years anyway, as was the case with many RV's of the time period.

I guess the real question is if the person that put down the new flooring also closed off the hole from below to protect the new flooring. I did on mine when I removed the inside mounted holding tank. I found zero damage to the floor because it had been properly installed by the factory in the first place, also in 1973.
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:59 AM   #20
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Hi, Bob Miller--you're answered a big question--why the original specs online for amerigo indicated there was no bathroom/toilet in the FG-16, yet so many people have had a toilet removed. Mystery solved. Aftermarket--and apparently often not done properly. Thanks. NO, the person closing it off did NOT close up the hole below. Mr.Stu here had a toilet hole to fill, too, with rot in the plywood above. That little front closet is quite tempting to convert to a loo...but with only 12" of ground clearance under the rig, the holding tanks had to be "loose" and in at least one case someone merely used a very long drainage tube coiled up underneath as the holding tank, which seems close to impossible and quite nasty.


For the trailer camping thread here, the issue of how to deal with toileting is an important one...as a tenter, one uses certain procedures that can be continued with a trailer, but one then has other options, sometimes, as well. There's a long thread here starting with the question of a sawdust port-a-potty, and other threads equally interesting. Lots of products out there if you choose a porta-potty, but I can highly recommend you not just drill a hole in the floor and shove a tube down it! LOTS of better ideas. It's even fun to read those threads and then go shopping.


By the way, on the sawdust-porta-potti thread, one poster said she just used a bare bucket, dumped it down the campground toilet, then washed out her bucket. Nice and easy. Hmmmm!


WHERE did she wash it out? Didn't think of that for several days, then woke up thinking, "Oh, please, NOT in the campground bathroom sink, where I've often brushed my teeth!" And also, "Not next to the trailer, with shore water, where I walk around barefoot!" And, "Hope she didn't drag that bucket all the way home in her rig or car, in case it tipped over..." so the question remains.


Tandy, wishing you lots of fun camping! Very interested in your rig, if you've got it now, how you like it so far, etc!
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The SeaLand loo that Scamp uses in the 13's & 16's has a holding tank built into the base and a 3" dump fitting that extends through the hole with a gate valve under the trailer. A regular drain hose was attached for draining. The one in my pic had a black tank under the riser, that completely fills that space, with a downward drain and gate valve in the same manner as on the Scamp. As those systems dated from before 1973, I am fairly sure it's what yours had at one time, meaning that the black tank was above floor level.


Take a look at the Dometic SeaLand 975, with a 5 gallon holding tank, it's the best I have ever used or seen in some 40+ years of using portable loos of all kinds.


I guess I missed the person that was dumping the contents of a sawdust toilet down the campground toilet. Sounds like a great way to clog up the lines as well as contaminate the sewage treatment system.....
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The SeaLand loo that Scamp uses in the 13's & 16's has a holding tank built into the base and a 3" dump fitting that extends through the hole with a gate valve under the trailer. A regular drain hose was attached for draining. The one in my pic had a black tank under the riser, that completely fills that space, with a downward drain and gate valve in the same manner as on the Scamp. As those systems dated from before 1973, I am fairly sure it's what yours had at one time, meaning that the black tank was above floor level.


Take a look at the Dometic SeaLand 975, with a 5 gallon holding tank, it's the best I have ever used or seen in some 40+ years of using portable loos of all kinds.


I guess I missed the person that was dumping the contents of a sawdust toilet down the campground toilet. Sounds like a great way to clog up the lines as well as contaminate the sewage treatment system.....
Hi, well, no, not a sawdust toilet, an essentially empty bucket, with just the human waste, not even any paper and certainly not a plastic bag. That way it could really be dumped in a toilet or even a stack "outhouse." It's not the dumping itself that bothers me, it's the question of how and where she washes the bucket.
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Old 10-29-2015, 05:20 PM   #23
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Welcome, Tandy.
First, you want to figure out what trailer and model you want before getting the tow vehicle, or invariably the TV ends up insufficient for the loaded trailer.

Second, electric only is very limiting. With a solar panel of 150 watts and propane, you can run a furnace and cook on the stove and use anything except the A/C. Even a microwave can be used with an inverter.

Campgrounds in the busy season may fill their electric spots but there may be spots with no electric available. You can take one with no problem if it is cold and rainy, if you have propane.

There are people who have bought an all-electric camper only to then decide that they need to install a propane furnace. So you might want to consider where and how you expect to camp. You will have no trouble towing since you have done that with a horse trailer.
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Old 10-30-2015, 09:38 AM   #24
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Bob, you mentioned problems with the Lil Snoozy - a brand I am considering. I do know of the "blue hose" issue in the cassette toilet that seems to wear out in a year. IS there anything else I might want to know about the Snoozy?
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Old 11-01-2015, 06:28 PM   #25
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Great Info on all electric & solar

I really appreciate all of the comments. Just want you to know I'm listening. My best! T
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