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Old 04-12-2013, 08:29 AM   #15
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Re getting under the garage door. Some people use the 8" wheels with no tire on it to even lower more. Another solution is to use car dollies under the hubs like those in the link below.
Vehicle Dollies - 2 Piece, 1500 Lb. Capacity

Does your tow vehicle need a transmission cooler or an engine oil cooler? Some vehicles , like the Sienna need an engine oil cooler that is very expensive ($1200) to retrofit. A transmission cooler is generally quite inexpensive.
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Old 04-12-2013, 08:44 AM   #16
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Don't know if I have ever seen an FGRV with a shower and a porta-potty. Unless someone took out the original loo, by the time they get a shower they usually have on board black & gray water holding tanks.
I have seen pop-up tent trailers with showers and cassette loo's though.

Any yes, the Scamp is all fiberglass, but the 13' is very, very tight for more than 2 with the bathroom/shower option.

As mentioned, the Hunter Compact series as well as the Campsters were all designed to fit in a garage as-is. Our Compact-II has a bathroom and an outside shower panel, but again, is suited for no more than two.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:44 AM   #17
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With small 8" golf cart wheels swapped on, one should be able to get a Snoozy through a 84" (standard 7' door) door opening. I presently do this for my Scamp, and have ruled out the Park Liner because there is no way to make it through the 7' opening.
One more thing of note, I use a small dolly with a hitch ball mounted on it, and connect it to my Jeep's winch, to drag the trailer through the door, as there will not be enough room to keep the trailer connected to the tow vehicle. I would probably use the car dollies as someone else posted, in place of the 8" wheels if I had a paved driveway. Good luck with your quest.
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Old 04-12-2013, 12:06 PM   #18
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Just because you add a few of the components doesnt necesarily raise the tow capacity sad to say.
tow capacity is normally set due to the weakest link - which in most cases is the back end components and the tugs frame.

yes the Scamp is all fiberglass. But you will be hard pressed to find a used 13' Scamp with a bathroom - especially in your area unless you are willing to import it as I did. Its more common to find a 16' with a bathroom but its weight and height will not work for you - even then you will be hard pressed to find many of them in Canada. Its also really hard to find/keep a 16' under 2500 lbs loaded even without any water in the tanks.

Due to your location I would think you would find it a lot easier to find a used 13' Boler. No bathroom but it would fit your weight restriction and have a better chance of fitting into your garage.

I understand the garage need as I also cant park a trailer in my driveway from Nov 1 to April 1 other than to load it or unload it. Even in the summer months it has to be moved/used at least every 30 days. To get around that some people use commercial facilities to store their trailers in the winter months. Some RV dealers and fairgrounds located some distance out of the urban areas offer pretty good deals on winter storage. A member of my family found a spot for $120 for the whole winter. Often means though that once the trailer goes into the cheap storage it cant be moved out again until a set date.

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Old 04-12-2013, 02:05 PM   #19
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With small 8" golf cart wheels swapped on, one should be able to get a Snoozy through a 84" (standard 7' door) door opening. I presently do this for my Scamp, and have ruled out the Park Liner because there is no way to make it through the 7' opening.
I measured to day and the max garage door opening is 84". +/- 1/8".
what is your max opening. What was the clearance to top of Scamp?
Did you have to remove the exhaust fan?
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:23 PM   #20
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my mini van

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Re getting under the garage door. Some people use the 8" wheels with no tire on it to even lower more. Another solution is to use car dollies under the hubs like those in the link below.
Vehicle Dollies - 2 Piece, 1500 Lb. Capacity

Does your tow vehicle need a transmission cooler or an engine oil cooler? Some vehicles , like the Sienna need an engine oil cooler that is very expensive ($1200) to retrofit. A transmission cooler is generally quite inexpensive.
The dollies don't look like the best idea. The 8" wheels look better. The hub is 7"? and a 8" wheel with no rubber is better. I know that seems like 1/2 " from the hub but it is actually 1" from hub to ground (this I know from work). Example if you car/truck is 15 inch rims go measure total rim diameter and you will see it is about 16". How close are the dollies to the ground? Dollies must be less than 1" otherwise it is better to get 8" rims.

My mini van is stock 2000 lbs. Tow option is 3500 lbs. And this is with the stock engine/tranny as there are no choices. The tow option included a heavy duty rad and a engine oil cooler. For odd reasons I had a heavy duty rad installed a year ago. When I get a egg I will install a large tranny cooler. That should do the trick because I will go probably to a max of 2200-2400 lbs.
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Old 04-12-2013, 02:35 PM   #21
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Squeezing an egg thru the door

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With small 8" golf cart wheels swapped on, one should be able to get a Snoozy through a 84" (standard 7' door) door opening. I presently do this for my Scamp, and have ruled out the Park Liner because there is no way to make it through the 7' opening.

I measured and with a removal of some wood I can get the door opening to exactly 84" . Otherwise its a big job raising the lentil and removing bricks and losing most of my loft in the garage.

What is your Scamp factory height spec you have. I assume no a/c. What is exact height of your door opening? How much clearance do you have from roof to top of garage door?

This website is a wealth of knowledge.
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Another way to lower the trailer is to add weight inside to lower it on it's suspension. You could use sand bags, barrels of water, etc.
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Old 04-12-2013, 03:12 PM   #23
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Another way to lower the trailer is to add weight inside to lower it on it's suspension. You could use sand bags, barrels of water, etc.

That is a last resort. I don't think I will do it but its a idea if I need 1/4 inch lower.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:30 PM   #24
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Smile My answers to your questions

1) I did it! See:

13 ' Trillium in 83" garage door

(Go to post #10 for some photos.)

2) Eggsactly! We get 22 mpg.

3) Our Subaru Outback is also rated for 2000#. Our Trillium loaded for a two month trip weighed in at Quartzsite at 1840#. Go by the rating in your TV documentation. If the dealer is willing to give you a greater rating IN WRITING, go for it. Otherwise:

Proper Tow Vehicles A Must!

4) I like the Trillium for obvious reasons. Go here:

Trillium RV - Orange County RV - YouTube

Ignore the contact information on the video. Instead go here:

trilliumrv.com

I do think that Scamps have wood floors exposed on the bottom.

Good luck in your search, whatever you get.

BTW my wife and I are also retired.

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Michell, my garage door opening is exactly 84", and when I had the stock worn out Scamp axle on the trailer, I could leave the tires on the 8" golf cart wheels and just get the scamp through the opening. I then added a fantastic fan and found that I had to remove the cover to just clear the opening. I now have replaced my axle with a flexi-ride axle that allows adjusting the ride height of the trailer. My problems began with this change, as I changed from the leading control arm set-up, to a trailing control arm configuration. This should have had little change to the factory ride height, HOWEVER, the shop that made the change for me and beefed up my frame, did not follow my instructions that I had gotten off FGRV postings, and they added approximately 4 additional inches to the ride height. This now forced me to remove the tires from the 8" wheels in order to fit through the door opening, but I do NOT have to remove the fantastic fan cover anymore.
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Old 04-13-2013, 06:15 AM   #26
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1) ..........Otherwise:

Proper Tow Vehicles A Must!..........Roger
I can't believe that you are still posting this piece of undocumented scare mongering.
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:18 PM   #27
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Michell, my garage door opening is exactly 84", and when I had the stock worn out Scamp axle on the trailer, I could leave the tires on the 8" golf cart wheels and just get the scamp through the opening. I then added a fantastic fan and found that I had to remove the cover to just clear the opening. I now have replaced my axle with a flexi-ride axle that allows adjusting the ride height of the trailer. My problems began with this change, as I changed from the leading control arm set-up, to a trailing control arm configuration. This should have had little change to the factory ride height, HOWEVER, the shop that made the change for me and beefed up my frame, did not follow my instructions that I had gotten off FGRV postings, and they added approximately 4 additional inches to the ride height. This now forced me to remove the tires from the 8" wheels in order to fit through the door opening, but I do NOT have to remove the fantastic fan cover anymore.
That's great to hear that!! With golf card rims and rubber you can get it in the garage. That stops the driveway from being all marked up. Two more questions. What was the original factory height specs of your Scamp? About how much originally clearance was there to top of garage door with 8" rims and tires?

This great news now I can serious start looking probably for a Scamp and most likely a new one.The Scamp I like because usually one and occasional two will use it. Looks like I will get a 13 ft. even thou I could put a 16 ft. in my garage. The Scamp I noticed also comes with a toilet and shower...perfect.
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:32 PM   #28
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1) I did it! See:

13 ' Trillium in 83" garage door

(Go to post #10 for some photos.)

2) Eggsactly! We get 22 mpg.

3) Our Subaru Outback is also rated for 2000#. Our Trillium loaded for a two month trip weighed in at Quartzsite at 1840#. Go by the rating in your TV documentation. If the dealer is willing to give you a greater rating IN WRITING, go for it. Otherwise:

Proper Tow Vehicles A Must!

4) I like the Trillium for obvious reasons. Go here:

Trillium RV - Orange County RV - YouTube

Ignore the contact information on the video. Instead go here:

trilliumrv.com

I do think that Scamps have wood floors exposed on the bottom.

Good luck in your search, whatever you get.

BTW my wife and I are also retired.

Roger
Well I was forced to retire from work due to artritus (sp) but money wise I am well off (not that well but no problems paying bill or buying and all is paid off with $$$ in the bank) I am 61 now. Money is the least of my problems. I have bad balance walk poorly but I can drive like I stole it...hehe.
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