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Old 05-03-2015, 09:01 PM   #1
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Hi,I'm Dachia.. in the market for a Scamp or Burro, I think

Hi all. Just came across these forums and found a couple great threads. I knew I was looking for a Scamp, but just heard about a Burro and think that might work too. I am doing a couple roadtrips this year, each one 6-8 weeks. Will be traveling with 3 small dogs. Previously, I have done roadtrips with just the minivan, but am thinking I really need the ability to cool the place as I'll be in some very warm areas, doing some speaking etc for a couple hours away from the dogs/camper.

I am looking for an older used trailer, so it might not already have AC. And I'll be parked in many places with no electricity... so, am very interested in hearing about anybody's experience in cooling without electricity.

Thanks for any ideas.
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Old 05-03-2015, 09:16 PM   #2
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Other than lots of ice, serious cooling in a typical small FGRV without electricity (meaning a power hookup) is like division by zero, it's not defined.


Some use external generators but leaving them unattended can be an invitation to the generator grabbers.


BTW: Older FGRV's seldom offer much of a price advantage. Unless you are willing to start with a fixer, and can do all of the work yourself, buying a good one will cost a lot less.


And last...What will you be towing with and what is it's towing limit (per the owners manual) ?


Feed us some more info and lots of help will be forthcoming....
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Old 05-03-2015, 10:14 PM   #3
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I have found some new information. It may not be as hot as I thought it would be. Mid-80's. Do these FGRV stay cooler than a car would?

Other ideas- I have now heard of a Bigfoot along with a Scamp or a Burro.. or a... Cassita? I'm not locked into anything, that just happened to be the name I first heard.

Pulling with a Town and Country minivan, these FGRV should not be a problem.

I had not anticipated that the older would not be less expensive.

It needs to have a very basic bathroom setup, windows on all sides, jalousie on sides, roof vent... these are things I'm just hearing about. The biggest concern is keeping it cool enough for the dogs.
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Old 05-03-2015, 10:54 PM   #4
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A lot of campgrounds do not allow you to leave dogs unattended.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:35 AM   #5
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As FGRV weights can be deceptive, and a few T&C transmissions have a distaste for towing, give us some more details on this: "Pulling with a Town and Country minivan, these FGRV should not be a problem."


As a rule of thumb, any time it's to hot or cold to leave pets in a car, it's to hot or cold for leaving them in an FGRV.


Your "Want" list is the list we all want, however you won't find everything, especially in the same trailer.


Minimal bathroom: A very few 13' Scamps have a bathroom, but it eats up a lot of space you might want for your pets. A porta potty is the rule for 13's, you will usually have to be looking at 16's and above for a fixed bathroom.


I don't know of any with "Windows on all sides" save the usual three around the dining area and one in front (except if you have a front bath).


Jalousie windows are nice, but not all that common, especially in the front and back windows.


You might want to look for an FGRV event that you can drive to and look at what's out there and get a better idea of what you want to look for in a trailer.


BTW: What is your approximate budget, that can have a major impact of what you should be looking to buy.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:38 AM   #6
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Thanks for the responses, so far. I'm learning of other brands that might widen my search. So, I wonder if any of the FGRV's are better known for staying cool. Scamp, Burro, Casita and Bigfoot? (there might be others I have not heard about yet).

Bob, I know you said there is not a huge price difference in older/newer, I'm wondering if newer offers something that might really matter to me, as the older are probably (I'm guessing) easier to find... Are the newer ones naturally cooler? Easier to haul? I'm still reading here... getting details listed. Thanks folks.
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Old 05-04-2015, 08:38 AM   #7
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Sorry, Bob, we were posting at the same time. ;-)
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Bob, thanks for the response. I understand about different weights etc. My main thing I want to learn here is cooling. On a parking lot with no shade, outside temps of 85, windows open, top vent open, how hot would it likely be in the camper?
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Dachia (great name) welcome to the forum. As Bob said most campgrounds don't allow pets to be left alone for many reasons. I own two small dogs and wouldn't leave them without AC. So I would think hookups would be a must for AC. To bad you don't have a realitive to join you to help with the pets. Owning pets has its advantages but comes with a price of commitment as you know. I hope you find the unit that's perfect for you and solve the pet problem. Maybe research the areas your going to be at and find a place to board them for the period and time you will be away. Good luck
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Old 05-04-2015, 09:34 AM   #10
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Thanks for the response Papa, I'm well aware of campground issues. We are not staying at a campground. There are no hookups. Do you know how well a fiberglass RV keeps cool? With nothing else in the mix, how hot would it be? From there I can figure out what I'll need for this situation. Thanks ;-)
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I don't know of any with "Windows on all sides" save the usual three around the dining area and one in front (except if you have a front bath).


Jalousie windows are nice, but not all that common, especially in the front and back windows.
Other then on a Trillium. Dachia, you might also want to look at that brand, though not so common south of the border. I am rather fond of Trilliums.

As for heat, a powered roof vent will help. They don't use much power, and they keep the air flowing through your trailer. You have to keep a window cracked open as well. The white of a fibreglass camper also helps to keep the heat down.
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David, Thanks! I just heard of those too... on the list they go. ;-)
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As I mentioned earlier: "As a rule of thumb, any time it's to hot or cold to leave pets in a car, it's to hot or cold for leaving them in an FGRV."


The only FGRV's that have more than minimal insulation are the Bigfoots from Canada and only in the ones with the "All Season" option. These will be later, much heavier, longer and a lot more expensive.


This same issue, about leaving pets in an FGRV in warm/cold weather, comes up all the time and, without hook ups or a generator there really isn't an answer and, leaving an unattended generator running pretty much rules that out as well.
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An egg will probably be cooler that a car in similar conditions. We broke down climbing a long grade in the So Cal desert in June. It was about 105 degrees, dry, gusty winds, and we were reasonably comfortable waiting inside the Scamp. On the other hand, 85 degrees, humid and windless- could be a different story.

The breakdown was an overheated transmission. My local Toyota dealer talked me out of a transmission cooler for our Sienna. I should have gotten a second opinion. Fortunately, electronic nannies sent it into limp mode before serious damage occurred, so we just had to wait about 45 minutes for it to cool and were able to proceed (gingerly) to our destination. Bottom line... you will want to install a tranny cooler if you tow with your T&C.
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