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Old 08-25-2017, 01:49 PM   #15
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I like the square-ish look to it. It does make for somewhat more room inside and a bit easier renovation. Wall panels can have flat sections--it's a bit like our 73 amerigo.


When you say disaster...you meant? Rotted floor? Rotted door frame? Door missing, missing hardware, or simply won't shut? Broken lines everywhere? Non- working appliances? Stink? Rot? Mold? Must? Cushions that go flat when you sit on them? Ripped fabrics? Um? for a small space, smaller than an average bedroom, it can take a LOT of work to renovate these things!


I'm hoping for your sake it's not a disaster, but only a moderate mess...I know for a fact that your photos don't show enough detail to tell us what the problems are--I do believe you!


Last photo--interior BEFORE renovation--looks pretty cute, doesn't it? Looks solid, nice, decent, usable--but it was not. Top photo shows where the interior battery box was, with hole right through the fiberglass--the whole floor was rotten, the wall panels disintegrating, the lines shot, appliances corroded beyond belief in the backs and undersides, you name it. took 9 months and over $3,000 to repair...3rd photo--our first trip after reno. LOTS to learn about it but we kept it VERY simple, since buying such a mess in the first place told us we're not nearly as smart as we thought we were--


Now, you, you got a heckuva trade there, and I wish you all the very best!


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Old 08-25-2017, 02:11 PM   #16
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Kai---you had quite a go of it, and it DID look so beautiful in before photo! I can see some obvious water damage under front window, and a definite squishy spot in floor just inside door...door that does not shut right. Also, the strange outcropping above door looks to be cracking off.
I am in the process of moving, so really have't had time to get under it, look under dinette and other seats, etc in enough detail....that will come. I think I am going to do a sprinkler test on the roof as long as it is so bleeding hot here (to me, anything about 75 is Too Hot).

So..."When you say disaster...you meant? Rotted floor? Rotted door frame? Door missing, missing hardware, or simply won't shut? Broken lines everywhere? Non- working appliances? Stink? Rot? Mold? Must? Cushions that go flat when you sit on them? Ripped fabrics? Um? for a small space, smaller than an average bedroom, it can take a LOT of work to renovate these things!
" (I'll learn how to use the quote function soon here).......could be ALL of the above. Stay tuned
Yes, I'm hoping for "moderate mess." I was very excited to see it when he asked to trade, for sure!
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:30 PM   #17
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Strange Outcropping Above the Door 8) ;}

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Originally Posted by Kkat--I can see some obvious water damage under front window, and a definite squishy spot in floor just inside door...door that does not shut right. Also, the strange outcropping above door looks to be cracking off.

I am in the process of moving, so really have't had time to get under it, look under dinette and other seats, etc in enough detail....that will come. I think I am going to do a sprinkler test on the roof as long as it is so bleeding hot here (to me, anything about 75 is Too Hot).

So..."[B
When you say disaster...you meant? Rotted floor? Rotted door frame? Door missing, missing hardware, or simply won't shut? Broken lines everywhere? Non- working appliances? Stink? Rot? Mold? Must? Cushions that go flat when you sit on them? Ripped fabrics? Um? for a small space, smaller than an average bedroom, it can take a LOT of work to renovate these things!
[/B]" (I'll learn how to use the quote function soon here).......could be ALL of the above. Stay tuned
Yes, I'm hoping for "moderate mess." I was very excited to see it when he asked to trade, for sure!


Oh, yes, I'd have been very excited, too! We find we like Peanut (our trailer) more all the time...Paul uses it as his man-cave and reads in there, watching the cars and neighbors go buy most afternoons, cold or hot, rain or shine.

That outcropping is your doorway rain shield or "eyebrow" that is designed to keep sheets of water from running down inside the trailer when the door is open. I don't know if yours is original. Ours had been flattened and screwed on (over several vertical cracks!) and wasn't sealed with the proper butyl rubber (tape, caulk, etc.). Should you take it off to fix it, save it. We're having a hard time finding a new one that is still 3-D to put back. If I had such a thing, I might consider going over it with fiberglass resin and matte or cloth to make it sturdier; You could even fiberglass it right onto the trailer with some sanding first, saving screw holes and probably preventing more cracking. Also better rain diversion.

Possibly ours never had one and the flat piece was added to cover what we found out was damage from a collision that left the previous-previous owner dying and his car and trailer totaled. Paul filled over 82 holes in the fiberglass before he was done patching.

'Nuff bout us. YOU have a good idea, a sprinkler test...absolutely.

Where are you now? Quite a diff between the Oregon coast and inland.

If you were only much closer--but so be it.

My thoughts are with you! It's an exciting and daunting moment when you begin to find out what you're facing. My fingers are crossed that it's only moderate...some of what you speak of, though, is a bit more than that.

Brace yourself! But when you're done...may you well reap the rewards of all your work.

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Note "gray" rain shield above door. Gutter(?) Rain guard, "eyebrow", etc.
I actually thought it was 3D but it was screwed on FLAT. No use at all except to help hide vertical cracks from age, major crash, whatever.
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Old 08-25-2017, 06:01 PM   #18
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It would be interesting to see a picture of the inside looking out to show where you think a cabinet or closet was removed. It my or may not have originally had overhead cabinets. Ours does not but it does have floor to ceiling closet and storage on one side.

As others have said, it looks pretty good and you probably have a pearl in the rough. As long as there is no rot or mildew around the door, floor or under windows, you should have minimal work to make it ready to go.
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Old 08-25-2017, 06:12 PM   #19
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Agree, I'd like to see where those things are missing, too. And does yours have interior wood paneling? Many of these 13' trailers are all fiberglass, a single shell with some kind of interior product, carpeting or a rubber layer, to act as insulation and help prevent condensation.


More pics?


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Old 08-25-2017, 06:24 PM   #20
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Ok , so its a Ventura and my guess is a very early one before they were sold to Monarch Industries so probably around 72. There should have been a closet and the optional furnace would have been in the bottom of it. As you have noted, it was required for roof support. The roof is pretty weak with just some 1x2 braces to hold the load and to attach the interior too. To make matters worse, they were kerfed (notched) to allow them to bend easier to the shape of the roof which didn't leave much wood there. What i did on mine was to bend some 3/4" aluminum square tubing to shape and screw it to the sides of the roof supports that were there. There also should have been upper cabinets above the sink/ fridge area. The door looks like it was replaced as the originals had a terrible window that leaked and rotted out the door. On mine there was a serial number stamped on the frame on the street side by the propane mount. Mine was a 76. I would be checking with the DMV and make sure they will register it(just in case)

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Old 08-25-2017, 08:54 PM   #21
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WoW. Great stuff all. Thanks Kai for all the details, and advice on the eyebrow.
I will be located between Molalla and Mulino, just west of Liberal (!!) when I get all settled in.

I will take more photos tomorrow (farm-sitting, and not where the trailer is right now), including where the possible missing cabinets may have been (thanks, Dave F)..

Dudley, someone has pop-riveted a plate that says "1981" over possibly the original manufacture date...don't know if I want to pry that off. I have enlarged it a little and attached.
With all the input, I will go back and poke around the walls, etc, when I get a few minutes.
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Old 08-25-2017, 11:08 PM   #22
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If it matches the title and you can get plates for it , then all should be well. Nobody is going to look into a 45 year old trailer to see when they were produced. My serial plate was so worn that the only thing I could make out was the serial number and build date.
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If it matches the title and you can get plates for it , then all should be well. Nobody is going to look into a 45 year old trailer to see when they were produced. My serial plate was so worn that the only thing I could make out was the serial number and build date.
Agree X 10. If it does match the title I would get a cheap metal stamp set from Harbor Freight and stamp it on the frame and make it look like it's been there for years. I wouldn't worry what year it states....unless it reads 2016 .
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Try a new thread titled Ventura questions. The respondents will come out of the woodwork. We see lots of them here in Manitoba at our rallys. Jim R.
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BTW the belly band covers one of the flaws of the design, the top and bottom halves of the trailer are not fiberglassed together but rely on being screwed into wood on the inside. Some folks have glassed them together during a rebuild. The wood on some units has been rotten due to water intrusion, just a heads up.
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Old 08-26-2017, 11:58 AM   #26
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DUDLEY & Kkat: The amerigo is joined at the belly the same way. NOT glassed all around but screwed into a wooden strip (2x4, likely). IF we were doing ours again, this time we'd fiberglass it closed--but you still need the wood there to screw a LOT of things to. It's all part of the jigsaw puzzle way these are assembled. No part of the design can be lightly discarded.


We'd fiberglass it on the outside, nice and thick, keeping it tucked up inside so the belly band still fits over it...but inside, I think we'd leave it unglassed so it can dry out. You're going to have to screw into it to hold the belly band on...we ran our screws thoroughly through beeswax (a toilet ring works great for this and is cheap) before screwing into the wood. seals the microscopic wood pores with wax to help keep moisture out. Also we put a butyl tape strip there before screwing the belly band over it--again, sealing it as much as possible.


If you glassed it from the outside--you'd still have to put the butyl tape under the band, and you'd still probably want to run the screws through beeswax; you just want to help prevent moisture from getting into that wood strip that you do need.


It doesn't have a frame inside per se, but it has parts of a frame, and the belly wood is a huge part of that.


I like the idea of using a stamp set and making your own markings. Ours, a 1973, has no VIN or other ID # as they weren't assigning them at that time.


I like that you still have a table! Ours didn't--so in the end we opted for a small folding table that we can use inside and outside and at gatherings for BBQs and whatnot.


I like the look of yours inside--but then, I like these square eggs!


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Old 08-26-2017, 12:05 PM   #27
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Kkat, does your ceiling have molded-in areas that show where the uprights used to be? Ours does--that's why we ended up putting them back pretty much exactly where they came from--it was designed very carefully to have and to hold the supporting walls in a carefully-planned marriage... 8)


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Again, thanks for all the input. ! Kai, I didn't immediately notice molded-in places.... but will look with that in mind.

I am starting the process of contacting 2 owners back...maybe I will eventually find the original.
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