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Old 01-30-2018, 03:37 PM   #43
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Summer weekend camping: two adults, one toddler, one pregnant wife
Next years goals: 3-4 month cross Canada trip with two adults, one baby and one small kid.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:24 PM   #44
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Trillium located nearby

Can I get any input on this? Iíve asked for pics of interior and door but donít have them yet.

Does $8000 CAD sound right? The claimed weight is 1100lb and year 1975. New appliances apparently and a custom awning. Stored inside except past year.



CRV towable?

What else should I be looking for/asking?
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:36 PM   #45
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I'd sure hate to let go of that nice relocation nest egg. If it were me (and I'm very aware it isn't!) I'd look for a small, basic tent trailer- 8' box with minimal upgrades- for $3-4K. Tow it with the CR-V.

It seems like there's a lot of uncertainty right now, and that's not the best time to make a significant investment in vehicles. A lot depends on whether you end up relocating to somewhere else in North America or overseas. Once you get yourself settled somewhere, then start making your plans to upgrade to the molded trailer, new(er) vehicle...

When I was single, I wouldn't have hesitated to spend down my savings to do something I really wanted to do, but with a family, I have learned you need a lot more financial cushion.

Whatever you decide, I wish you the best!
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Can I get any input on this? I’ve asked for pics of interior and door but don’t have them yet.

Does $8000 CAD sound right? The claimed weight is 1100lb and year 1975. New appliances apparently and a custom awning. Stored inside except past year.



CRV towable?

What else should I be looking for/asking?
That is a Trillium 1300. I am kind of a Trillium guy.
Serial numbers on a Trillium

A few observations:
The furnace has been removed, but the exhaust vent is still there. So what is inside the kitchen cupboard? Leak path?
The wood stove is interesting. It has a fan, so must require power. It also must require a large hole in the roof of the trailer. Possible leak path.
The fridge is not original. It sticks out.
The fridge vents are not original.
The stove is missing the pot supports. But the stove is original.
The kitchen back splash has some questionable,..... tile?
Cushion on the gaucho is original. The dinette does not match.
Can't tell if the there is a back / upper bunk for the gaucho.
There is provision for a fall prevention bar for the top bunk of the gaucho.
120 VAC outlet on the front of the trailer. Possible leak path. Questionable idea.
Original, if painted, hubcaps.
Green interior.
Shelves above the dinette, probably above the gaucho as well, not sure.
Carpet under the dinette, some kind of flooring elsewhere.
Still has the belly band, so that will be need to be looked at.
Propane tank is not mounted correctly. Is it safe?

Questions for seller:
When were the windows last resealed?
Is the axle original? (I would put money on it)
How old are the tires?
Does it have brakes?
Where are the support bars for the gaucho?
Ask to see the water tank. Is it black?
Does the water pump work?

I sold an awesome 4500 Deluxe for $7500.
SOLD: 1978 Trillium 4500 Deluxe - $7000 cdn
So no, the price does not sound right. But prices do seem on the rise.

However, it would be fine to tow with a CRV
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Old 01-30-2018, 08:54 PM   #47
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Cheers, David! That is amazingly helpful feedback as we would have noticed/ looked for pretty much none of those details. All we know so far is to look for bulging by the wheel arches and door sagging- we have much to learn!
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Old 01-30-2018, 09:01 PM   #48
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Thanks Jon, the trailer money is budgeted. Its the car that wasn't really.

We'll likely be moving abroad so whatever we have will get sold. We're hoping that the trailer will hold its value. The car again is more the issue as it will not ( hold its value).

Funny you should say tent trailer as we started there. It poses two problems for us: not keen on putting it up and down daily for 3-4 months ( we're planning a longer trip); it doesn't help my wife's bear fears. She's looking for something with solid walls. I've spent ten years wrestling her fear of bears and now we have kids I'm giving up on tents. She doesn't sleep for worrying about it ( and consequently I am not allowed to either!).
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She's looking for something with solid walls. I've spent ten years wrestling her fear of bears and now we have kids I'm giving up on tents. She doesn't sleep for worrying about it ( and consequently I am not allowed to either!).
Other than taking a few seconds longer than a tent, I don't think there's a trailer built that would keep a bear out if they really wanted in.
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I get where his wife is coming from. It's not about facts; it's about perception. My wife is exactly the same and has commented many times how safe and secure she feels in the Scamp. I'll be the last one to tell her otherwise!

The facts: we don't camp in grizzly country, but we do have smallish black bears. I am careful to make sure there are no food smells in the trailer. We cook outside away from the trailer, and in bear country we store our food in the tug at night (hidden, as they can recognize the shape of an ice chest). That, more than thin fiberglass walls, keeps us reasonably safe. A large bear can open a car with little more trouble than a tent, but we're aren't in the car, and that's the point!

There are places I wouldn't take a tent trailer and some that prohibit them outright, but there are plenty of other places where they are just fine. The worst part of tent trailers is folding them down in the rain. On the other hand, they are spacious and well-ventilated. As a kid my family traveled all over the US and eastern Canada, up to 6 weeks at a time, in a tent trailer. It was the only kind of RV our station wagon could pull that would sleep all six of us.

But in the current situation... happy spouse, happy house, as they say...
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:23 PM   #51
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Thanks Jon, the trailer money is budgeted. Its the car that wasn't really.

We'll likely be moving abroad so whatever we have will get sold. We're hoping that the trailer will hold its value. The car again is more the issue as it will not ( hold its value).

Funny you should say tent trailer as we started there. It poses two problems for us: not keen on putting it up and down daily for 3-4 months ( we're planning a longer trip); it doesn't help my wife's bear fears. She's looking for something with solid walls. I've spent ten years wrestling her fear of bears and now we have kids I'm giving up on tents. She doesn't sleep for worrying about it ( and consequently I am not allowed to either!).
James,

You might look into A Frame trailers. They generally don't require as many gyrations to set up as a tent trailer does, and in fact pop up rather quickly and easily. They offer a hard shell with glass windows. They are lightweight and you would have substantially less wind resistance towing with their small cross sectional area.

Some might say that molded fiberglass trailers won't lose value, but over the longer term they clearly do. They just uphold their value better than many alternatives. Under current market conditions, they are doing particularly well at this, especially newer ones that offer a "no wait" option when some factories have long waiting lists. But, given how times change, it's not something that you can ultimately count on. RVs tend to be quickly disposed of when difficult financial times strike. Trailers are an item to own and enjoy using, not an investment per se.

Molded trailers come at a premium price for the size and offer terrific "water resistance" among their desirable attributes. While an A Frame trailer's construction may not be as water resistant as a molded trailer, they can be relatively easy to seal up (if necessary) compared to most "conventional" trailers.

Whether an A Frame is a good fit for your needs, or whether one could potentially be towed with your current vehicle, I can't say. But, they could put you back into the smaller vehicle category. I think they are an option worth looking into.
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Old 01-31-2018, 02:13 PM   #52
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Campers are a luxury item, molded fiberglass even more so. As you have already found out, it can mean a major outlay of $$ for the trailer and another outlay of $$ for the proper tow vehicle.

Buying a camper of any kind is best suited when you have an adequate emergency fund already, and extra cash to buy it outright. There are often surprises on used trailers which will take more $$. It goes from a blessing to a curse.

I would certainly never take home purchase funds and divert them to buy a trailer.. Its kind of like people that borrow from their 401K here in the US to pay for a vacation or a new car. Bad idea.

We have a lot of great memories from tent camping. Cheap, you bet! but we took plenty of long trips. A couple of years ago, I took a three week, 13,000 mile motorcycle trip to Alaska. I used a tent every night. Not only did I save a lot of money doing it that way, it was an awesome trip. I left the molded fiberglass trailer at home for that trip.

If you have your heart set on a molded fiberglass trailer, I'd look for additional income (overtime, second job, ebay) and pile up more cash so its not a stretch.

Popup campers are also a good choice.

+10 Although molded trailers have done a great job recently retaining their value, I would certainly NOT consider them an investment. That business is a target right now, waiting lists close to a year. I would not be surprised to see more companies enter the market.

Remember when people used to sell their spot on the Harley Davidson waiting lists? People would put $250 down on multiple motorcycles, and then sell their spot for $5000 or more. It worked for a while. Eventually it no longer worked and people that had no intention of owning a Harley or any motorcycle ended up either forfeiting deposits or stuck with motorcycles.


As far as size, molded trailers are tight, and the older 13 footers almost always have a small bed size (think twin plus). A standard twin bed is 39 inches wide, and many F/G campers have 44 inch beds. Tight, really tight. Such a small bed would work perfectly well for me, but not my wife. She definitely needs AT LEAST 44 inches for her. I would be sleeping on the floor, or in the truck. I have friends, a couple, and their camper is a 40 foot motor coach. Naturally, it has several tip outs as well. And they are weekend campers. But for them, that is the room they "need". And I met a couple on the road, full timers for over two years, in a Trillium 1300. They were very happy. Everyone is different!

Bear fears? Channel that into extra work, again the dreaded part time job, overtime, or whatever. Money gives you the option to make more desirable choices.
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As far as size, molded trailers are tight, and the older 13 footers almost always have a small bed size (think twin plus). A standard twin bed is 39 inches wide, and many F/G campers have 44 inch beds. Tight, really tight. Such a small bed would work perfectly well for me, but not my wife. She definitely needs AT LEAST 44 inches for her. I would be sleeping on the floor, or in the truck. I have friends, a couple, and their camper is a 40 foot motor coach. Naturally, it has several tip outs as well. And they are weekend campers. But for them, that is the room they "need". And I met a couple on the road, full timers for over two years, in a Trillium 1300. They were very happy. Everyone is different!
Well, since you mentioned Trilliums, the bed in 1300 is 45.5 inches wide, but in the 4500, the 15' version, the bed is 53 inches wide. Maybe you would not have to sleep on the floor. The gaucho is a better place then the floor anyway.
What I like about a Trillium 4500 vs. a 1300
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Yeah, the 4500s are really nice. I like all the old Trilliums.
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The 4500's are a nice upgrade from the 1300's, but for they OP's purposes, they are not CR-V towable. A 4500 will likely weigh around 2000 pounds.
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Old 02-06-2018, 03:01 PM   #56
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Opinion please

Still stunned by Dave's detective work on the Trillium pictures as I still find them too dark to make anything out!

I'd love input/ observations on this boler. just turned up on CL in our hood. I imagine there will be hot competition so we'll have to move fast if its worth pursuing. I see further up this forum at least one other person searching for 13footers in Vancouver :/

https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/...486139950.html
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