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Old 10-14-2016, 02:14 AM   #29
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No need to lift em just get a decent sized step ladder!

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I have a four wheel drive, because that is what's available here in Southern Minnesota. I replaced a
Toyota Tacoma 4x4 with the Frontier. Before that, I owned 5 two wheel drive pickups in Colorado, Montana and here in Minnesota. I think that tire choice is almost as important for winter driving as a powered front axle. Beware that newer full sized pickups will require the Scamp to be lifted.
:I was out showing someone some property I owned 2 years ago and as I was stepping over a tree I stepped down onto what I thought was a solid log and it was not and ended up breaking a cple of Ribs. Took me at least 1/2 hour before I got the nerve to move and when I did I almost passed out again but I made it up and looked at this guys truck which sits 53" off the ground and wondered how in the hell am I going to get into that truck and down to the Abbotsford, BC Hospital, the buyer helped to his truck then with some old pieces of wood he built a bit of a stairway and somehow managed to get me into the front seat, where I immediately Passed out. It was about a 5 hour drive tot he Hospital but I would not know as I was out cold. They managed to get me in and Xray me and lucky for me there was only 2 broken and 3 cracked. Lucky for me when we did get to the Hospital I was still out cold and I have no idea how they got me out of that truck.
The Next two months were hell then gradually it got better took a total of 6 months before I could do normal things again.
But I Look at all these trucks out on the road today and they just do not fit into parking lots, normal parking stalls, are way to high off the ground, I miss old 70's Fords and 60 and 70's GMC PU's.
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Old 10-14-2016, 02:39 AM   #30
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. Beware that newer full sized pickups will require the Scamp to be lifted.
I suppose it depends on the truck but from Scamps web site the ball hitch height on a Scamp 13' is about 18 inches high for the 13 foot trailer and 21 inches high for the 16 foot trailer. The very top of the hitch receiver on a new Ford F150 4x4 is about 24". The Dodge Ram 1500 is about the same maybe even a little bit lower. So one should have no problem finding a drop receiver that would work.
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Old 10-14-2016, 07:02 AM   #31
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4wd can be needs art sometimes even on just wet grass. How do I know this? Guess. I bought my first one when I could not move my 5th wheel trailer out of my packed snow driveway. Got towed out to leave for AZ and bought the 4x4 when we got home in the spring. I use it both for necessity and for fun.


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Old 10-14-2016, 08:09 AM   #32
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...Beware that newer full sized pickups will require the Scamp to be lifted.
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I suppose it depends on the truck but from Scamps web site the ball hitch height… So one should have no problem finding a drop receiver that would work.
Carol, we're talking about a Scamp fifth wheel. As Dennis says, most newer trucks, 2WD or 4WD, do require the optional 3" axle lift for the loft to clear the bed rails. The OP is looking at two older trucks, so this may or may not be an issue.

To the OP, this may influence your decision between the Chevy and the Ranger. Does the Scamp 19 you are buying have the lift? Measure the bed rail height on both trucks and contact Scamp to find out whether they will work with your trailer.

Separately, I was wondering whether the Ranger has the 3.0L or the 4.0L. No personal experience, but I have read a couple of posts that suggested the larger engine was a better match with a Scamp 19 and its fairly large frontal profile. It may depend on where you tow. Flats are one thing; mountains and high elevations another. Ranger fans… any comments?
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Old 10-14-2016, 08:32 AM   #33
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I would recommend that JmR look at the spreadsheet with trailer and tow vehicle mileage info, or the one about vehicle weights and look at what is used to tow the S19's. I happily tow with a 2013 Tacoma 4 liter, 4 Door (for plenty of room inside for the two of us and "stuff"). The 4 Wheel drive is handy here during Vermont winters and also while camping, it is good on sites that are uneven and may have wet grass, or steep gravel driveways. Whenever I hear a slipping tire, I think about all that rubber is left behind.
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Old 10-14-2016, 09:19 AM   #34
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Carol, we're talking about a Scamp fifth wheel. As Dennis says, most newer trucks, 2WD or 4WD, do require the optional 3" axle lift for the loft to clear the bed rails. The OP is looking at two older trucks, so this may or may not be an issue.

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Thanks Jon, your correct I wasn't thinking a fifth wheel.
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Old 10-14-2016, 11:18 AM   #35
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I am a fan boy of 4WD so my opinion is very biased. First thing I would do in your situation is call Scamp and see if there are trucks that don't work well with the Scamp 5th wheel. Short beds and long beds come to mind as does the height and depth of the bed.

If you park on wet grass with a slight incline someday you will wish you had 4wd.

Now forget towing with 2wd or 4wd. they both tow.

The real reason for getting 4wd is the very reason you are getting the Scamp trailer. You want to travel and explore the country before you leave it. Once you park your trailer are you going to go venture off or are you going to just sit there and wait to drive to the next campground.

The back roads of utah with canyonlands and arches national park.

Death valley going to the raceway or through Titus canyon.

Quartzsite back roads or even in the rain.

and so many areas spread throughout the vast country are all better with a 4wd truck.

Sure you can go in 2wd and beat the snot out of you and your truck but with a 4x4 you can do it much safer and with a truck designed to take the roughness of off pavement travel.

I've never known anyone that had 4wd pick-up and regretted it but I have know several that they wished they had bought a 4wd instead of 2wd.
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Old 10-14-2016, 12:01 PM   #36
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I bought a new Ranger before they went out of production in 2011, my third one. It was to be my retirement vehicle. So far I have less than 2000 KM on the odometer. Today I retire and start driving my Ranger.
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Old 10-14-2016, 12:12 PM   #37
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I tow with an '02 Tundra and am very happy with it as a daily driver and as a tow vehicle. I bought it new and it's been the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned. I take decent care of it but don't baby it.

This is the first generation model, which I believe was produced through 2007. What drew me to it when I bought it, and it's even more true today, is that it's a size smaller than it's GM and Ford competitors. In fact, it's not much bigger than the current Tacoma. It's very maneuverable, has a higher ground clearance than its contemporaries and pulls our 17' Casita easily.

My truck is 2wd. I don't disagree with what you guys are saying about 4wd, but I live in flat, snowless S. Florida and have never had a need for it.
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Old 10-14-2016, 12:56 PM   #38
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The Chevy. Has the power, has positrac and will tow bigger campers should you upgrade in the future.
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Old 10-15-2016, 07:50 AM   #39
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I bought a new Ranger before they went out of production in 2011, my third one. It was to be my retirement vehicle. So far I have less than 2000 KM on the odometer. Today I retire and start driving my Ranger.
Congratulations to both events.
When I retired and was ready to tow a camper, the only small/medium pickups were Tacomas and Frontiers. The other brands were gone (temporarily), since they thought they knew better (also temporarily). Tacoma was eating their lunch and it became my first non-domestic new vehicle. Just commenting on the situation.
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Old 10-15-2016, 10:54 AM   #40
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Thanks Paul. I've been looking forward to retirement for a long time. I postponed it for several years because I enjoyed working but now its time. When I subtracted my pension from my salary I realized I was working for nothing. I've been trailering for over 40 years and tried all sorts of combinations. What you can do and what you should do aren't always the same thing. I've dry camped in the winter in the mountains with the four wheels on my tow vehicle and my trailer chained up! No more of that. Now I tow a 3500 lb trailer with a 3/4 diesel. Even with my ATVs on the truck and towing my trailer I'm still only 1/2 capacity. A heavy truck is much better for towing if it's windy. A lighter tow vehicle uses just as much fuel as it has to work harder. Enjoy your travels!
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I've never known anyone that had 4wd pick-up and regretted it but I have know several that they wished they had bought a 4wd instead of 2wd.
Having had lots of 4wd pickups in fleet, I have never had to regret buying one for myself. The right choice for me has always been 2wd.
I knew a Ford dealer who had four 4wd trucks languishing on his lot for months, first 2" snowfall and he sold all four in two days. Clearly these purchases were impulsive and irrational, the very type of purchase which leads to regrets!
Plan ahead, think twice, buy once. That's the way to avoid regrets.
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With a smaller truck you can not go to a larger camper. With a larger truck your options are not limited.
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