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Old 07-21-2016, 08:30 PM   #15
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Well, I shall wish you unforgettable memories of the best kind then!
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Old 07-21-2016, 08:43 PM   #16
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Well this stupid insane road trip to get the Damn thing is a good start on our list of unforgettable Scamp memories!!! Seriously though, I do think this is the deal that is meant to be, and we are super stoked.
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Old 07-22-2016, 01:01 AM   #17
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Thank you both for replies.... I was thinking along those lines as I was waiting for your reply. Tires look to be pretty cheap, I was thinking I might offer to buy the tires if he will have them on and ready to go for me when I arrive and get him to throw in the wheel bearings for free. We'll see.
Thanks for the candor, it's always helpful to know the difference between 'this is recommended' 'this is highly recommended' and 'this is an absolute must do'.
If it was 50 miles or less I'd just go for it but the length of your trip definitely puts it the "absolute" zone. Don't forget the spare also as doing all three will give you a time stamp for the future. My spare had never been on the ground, looked new and was covered. Don't remember it's age now but it blew the tread off parked in the driveway . Wasn't really a problem though as I just bought it a couple months earlier and was going to replace them all before the Quartzsite rally trip anyway.
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Old 07-22-2016, 07:44 AM   #18
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Well, dealer paid hardball, and assuming he is telling the truth, he has every reason to. He has several cash in hand offers, including one $500 over the asking price... so, why would he need to work with me at all on tires/service?

He is going to call a few shops in town (its a small town) and see if they have tires in stock and can get them installed for me today. I of course will pay the bill (sucks, but not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things I suppose).

As for the wheel bearings, it seems I am out of luck... the dealer insists that this trailer is super low milage and it is not an issue, and I am not having much luck inferring that it is an age not a milage thing. Oh well, you can't change someones mind.

My goal is to maybe find somewhere along the way that can do it for me? Like a Sears or Walmart auto shop? Do you have any suggestions... and can you tell me how long a bearing re-pack service should take (I will be crunched for time, so as much of 'in and out' as possible the better).

My 1st goal will be to ask the tire shop, if the dealer is able to locate one for me, when I call the shop directly. Maybe they will be able to do it for me.

Last question, is there any way to know for sure that they actually DID the work? Another reason why I may want to get it done on the way somewhere... I'll be there to see the work completed...

Thoughts?
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Old 07-22-2016, 08:09 AM   #19
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Well, you tried. I'm not liking this dealer much, but the price is reasonable, so we move on...

For tires I like Discount Tire (or America's Tire in some areas). Price matching, usually good service, wide national coverage for service and repair. Driving a hundred miles to a larger city would expand your choices.

For bearings, if it's really "low mileage" then it's been sitting unused a lot, which is worse than being towed regularly. Either this salesman doesn't know, or he does... I'm really not liking the guy!... Not Walmart, they don't do that kind of work, and I wouldn't trust them if they did. Firestone or one of the chains might be your best bet being out of town- you have a national network in the unlikely event they don't do it right. Angie's List might have reviews. A routine bearing service is not a big deal- auto repair 101 level, and unless they're backed up it should take an hour or so. And yes, it's good to see them do it.
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Old 07-22-2016, 08:21 AM   #20
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Ginny, I am a little concerned about the "crunched for time" aspect of this adventure. Have you ever towed anything before? You can't drive as fast towing as not. 65 is pretty much an upper limit for towing and 60 even better. Everything takes a little longer with a trailer- getting in and out of a pit stop, finding a parking place, stopping for a meal,...

Since you can't go as fast, you may be looking at longer days, so you have to deal with the fatigue factor.

Be safe!
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Old 07-22-2016, 08:28 AM   #21
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It sounded from your initial posts that the value is there and you had the ability to go higher on price. So to paraphrase something Borrego Dave recently posted, it's green and dirty and in the end you are not taking it with you. So, you can set that one aside and focus on the other issues.

Consider that just because the dealer is located in a small town and is negotiating does not make them dishonest or incompetent. The more limited pool of potential customers in small towns generally don’t take these things lightly.

A mechanical failure of the tow vehicle or the trailer could throw all the plans awry. Risk management entails separately considering likelihood and consequences. Items with high likelihood OR potentially dire consequences should be guarded against.

Personally, I might be less concerned in regard to the bearings, but there could be a penalty if they go. Ways to confirm that work is done includes watching. I was welcomed into the work bay in a small town when I had a tire repair recently. I learned some things about the fellow doing the work and was able to see how he repaired the tire. It made it a more personal and enjoyable experience.

One theme I keep hearing is the lack of time and the consequent difficulty of getting things done on this road trip. It seems that you may be trying to fit two pounds of sugar into a one-pound sack here. You will need to decide how best to allocate the time between all these various desires and commitments.

One off-the wall-thought is to tow with empty propane cylinders; it would reduce the tongue weight. However, this might induce sway if the tongue is too light so should be considered carefully.
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Old 07-22-2016, 08:31 AM   #22
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Jon,
Thank you as always for your candor and concern.
Tires are being put on now, $66 each (x3) tire and install. They will be done before we get there tomorrow.

Bearings will still need to be done, we will try to find a spot on our way, sooner in the trip rather than later. 1-2 hrs labor is good to know, time wise. Firestone or Sears has been a good go-to for us, especially with nationwide service (ie. if I have an issue, I can go to another Firestone or Sears and be taken care of).

As for the 'rush'... its more like a daily crunch than an hourly one. We don't mind putting in long days- we have done it many times before! 65 will be the max pulling, and yes, I have pulled before, though it has been a few years. I don't mind slowing down a few miles and getting there an hour or two later... I just have to be 'there' that day, not tomorrow... if that makes sense.

Things are coming together, some of it smoothly, some of it not as smooth as I'd like... but, nothings perfect I suppose.

As always, thank you all for your encouragement and support!! We are super excited to start this new chapter of adventuring together.

-Ginny
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Old 07-22-2016, 08:54 AM   #23
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Mike,
You're right.. while we try not to be frivolous with our money, you also can't take it with you... and what's a few hundred dollars when it relates to safety. I couldn't agree more.

As for the propane tanks, they will have whatever they have in them now... there are 2 of them, I do not know if they are full, half, or empty.

I do know that we will not be putting anything in the trailer... no water, no nuthin... pulling it dry this trip- so it will be as close to #1750 as possible.

A final thought about time... ya'll don't know me real well yet.. I will admit I like to b*tch about time etc. but at the end of the day, I always buckle down and do what needs to be done, and do it right. I do not to cut corners.. though I will try to figure out the most efficient way to do something, and I guess that I what I have tried to do here... tried to figure out the most efficient way to get it all done at one time. But please rest easy knowing I won't go flyin' around at 75 miles an hour on old tires and unpacked bearings. I am not reckless or stupid (or at least I try not to be, willingly).

And, not to beat a dead horse... but I'll say it again... THANK YOU all for your advice.
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:21 AM   #24
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As for the propane tanks, they will have whatever they have in them now... there are 2 of them, I do not know if they are full, half, or empty.
Ginny,

It seems that dealers here on the left coast generally fill the propane cylinders with a purchase, even for used trailers. I don't know what custom might be out that way.

I thought that filling the cylinders might be something to waive if there are potential tongue weight issues. But now, looking back at the thread, I realize that tongue weight was an issue with your prospective future tow vehicle. So, never mind, it was a brain poof on my part.

Oh, and it also sounds like you just bought yourself a trailer and that congratulations are in order! I wish you good road there.

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Old 07-22-2016, 10:03 AM   #25
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Well, I haven't handed the guy the check, but it is in my hand and made out to the dealer. Lol, so yeah, pretty much bought.

We are excited!

As for the tongue weight, we are towing right now with a Honda Odessey, #3500 pound rating (and a #350 tongue weight if memory serves) so we should be good to go. The tongue weight worry was for the FUTURE car, a Subaru Outback, but that is probably 18 months down the road.

Hitting the road in a few, thanks all!
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Very excited for you! Have a wonderful trip! Best wishes for a smooth transaction and smooth sailing afterward!
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Old 07-22-2016, 12:04 PM   #27
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Before you hand over the check, spend a little time inside with door and windows closed, and see if you smell anything—like old smoke, or worse, mold. Then check for any sign of leaks (stains, streaks, soft floor, etc.). Then use the Checklist located here:

Fiberglass RV - Document Center - BuyersChecklist

to go over everything, and make sure everything works. And don't be afraid to walk away if something is not right. There will be others.

Good luck!

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Old 07-25-2016, 06:30 AM   #28
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just want to post a quick update (I'll post more next week when we get home to Oklahoma). All is well so far! We did buy the camper, and aside from a few very minor issues it is in fantastic shape. I was able to get the tires replaced prior to the drive, though I am still working on getting the wheelbearings re packed on the road. Our trip back to Oklahoma will be on a slower schedule, so we should be able to get it done.

Thank you all for your support, pics and more questions to come later.
Happy travels!

Ps. She handles so well. No sway, easy to maneuver.... Never over 65mph. She is a Champ Scamp.
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