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Old 01-16-2014, 11:30 PM   #113
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Exactly!
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Old 01-17-2014, 11:18 AM   #114
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While I am sure that this is a well though out design decision, in my old age, I rely more on field testing. I think that is why I buy Trilliums. After 36 to 42 years, all my trailers have stood up fairly well, (other then a collapsed roof).

Only time will tell. Have you considered how your system may fail, and a repair procedure?
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:51 AM   #115
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No continuous frame? That is something new.
Or then again, maybe not. Where Nest is relying on the monocoque strength is just where many egg trailer frames have a very weak section, at least on one side, under the entry doorway. And that of course is right under the weak point in the body, at the doorway in a 'conventional' Boler/Scamp layout - whereas the Nest body is continuous there.

Monocoque fiberglass structures are used in the boating world to carry sailing yacht keels, that are subject to loads that would shred any trailer, so it is only a matter of designing the laminate to carry the load. Nest could still get it wrong with poor detail design, but it sounds like they know that.

"It hasn't yet been done" does not mean either "it can't be done" or "it shouldn't be done".
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:56 AM   #116
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I wish you the best of luck Robert and hopefully I'll see your Nest Caravan somewhere.
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Old 01-18-2014, 05:49 PM   #117
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Monocoque fiberglass structures are used in the boating world to carry sailing yacht keels, that are subject to loads that would shred any trailer, so it is only a matter of designing the laminate to carry the load. .
I'd point out that the difference in the case of a boat is that "contact area" of the stressor (the water) is spread evenly across the keel surface.

That seems very different to me from this design, where the tongue for example will be simply bolted directly through the floor, stopping at some point well before the axles. I s'pose some engineer has worked out all the numbers, but my uneducated eyes see that as a "leverage" point right where one wouldn't like to have it.

I, too, am looking forward to see the first built model- I'm going to be in the Bend area in a couple of months and HOPE the prototype will have rolled off the assembly line by then!
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Old 01-18-2014, 08:51 PM   #118
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Actually the forces from the lead keel are transferred to the fiberglass through the keel bolts. Think about when the boat runs aground, the mud stops the keel which brings the boat to a halt in a few feet by giving a big 'whoa' to the keel bolts.

The Nest design looks innovative, no reason it can't be as strong as a conventional steel frame with proper stress analysis.
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Old 01-26-2014, 03:16 PM   #119
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Hi everybody. Quick update on our progress...

Bryan Thompson has added some nice "automotive" styling details to our design, and we're currently hard at work finessing the engineering to accommodate the new look.

Couple notes of interest: we're switching over to a Kinro window that has a very clean "frameless" look — again, very automotive in its styling. And, we are very seriously considering adding up front (as an option) a retractable, "ragtop" moonroof — for sleeping under the stars!

We haven't made an "official" announcements about the re-design on our website yet, but I'm happy to let you guys take a peek at where we're at, as of this writing. What do you think?
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Old 01-26-2014, 03:33 PM   #120
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As always you do quality work. I have seen some of your redos on older FG trailers the work is top line.
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Bryan Thompson has added some nice "automotive" styling details to our design...

... we're switching over to a Kinro window that has a very clean "frameless" look — again, very automotive in its styling.
I think the "automotive" styling will sell this trailer. I like it.
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Might bump up the MSRP just a tad
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Wow, I LOVE that sun roof! Can't wait to see pictures of one on a FGRV.
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Are these Kinro windows available in dual glazed? Something preferable to me.

All depending on the cost of the option, a moon roof would not be something high on my priority list. It would be cool thing, but in reality not sure how much it would get used. But, I am sure it would suit people in a warm climate better.

Really liking what you are doing with this trailer though.
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That roof is great! I'd love the light and ventilation and 'being outdoors' feeling it would provide.

Other than the obvious question of cost, I'd be concerned that it not leak in hurricane conditions which is exactly what you have driving on the freeway into a thunderstorm where it is easy to experience an 80 mph wind driven rain.

We were just at an RV show this weekend sitting in a new 16' Airstream, with about the same living space and tow vehicle requirements as the Nest. The AS sticker price was $43,000 so there is certainly a market for high end small trailers. IMHO, Nest is smart to build in features like the sunroof, 12v fridge, and hot water heating, features no one else, even AS, has.
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I think the removal of the step/kink in the waistline is an improvement in appearance - but then the step/kink looked such a production nightmare to me that my aesthetic judgement may be biased.
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