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Old 09-19-2017, 07:24 PM   #15
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Gotta pretty much agree with Donna and madjack. We have a 2012 CRV and a Campster, which is one of the "cousins". We are at about 2600# loaded. We thought about small trips with the CRV, but no way.

In all fairness to this family of trailers, ours has been heavily modified which may have added some weight. There may be some that are lighter, but you would still be pushing it.
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Old 09-19-2017, 07:24 PM   #16
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I am waiting for Norm to find his way in here?

Norm towed a 16' Scamp for years with his Gen 2 CRV and has no regrets that I know of.

In fact just the opposite and if you want someone to just tell you it might work I suggest you search here for some of the lengthy "Discussions" we had about it.

His CRV was a Manual tranny too.

Maybe you could tell us which exact CRV you do have?Year?
The newer ones do have more power but are still not rated for more towing load.
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Old 09-19-2017, 07:35 PM   #17
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$ POP $...that is the sound of my pin popping your balloon...AND, echoing everything Greg is telling you...your tow vehicle is inadequate for towing a travel trailer...do yourself a favor and everyone else on the road and get your self something which will SAFELY tow...I am not trying to give you a hard time, I am trying to save your life, the life of your vehicle and the lives of those on the hiway around you. This will prevent much frustration, resulting in a disappointing camping experience...as always the choice is yours...choose wisely...like the man said...pay me now or pay me later..........
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i agree with you both, greg and madjack. i probably was a bit too mild with my response (posting 12), most of us with casitas consider a 5000lb tow rating to be the minimum (my tacoma has a 6500lb tow rating). anything less puts undue stress on the tow vehicle and may prove an unsafe situation. the weight of these trailers increases quickly when we start adding mods/water/personal belongings, etc. it's also important to weigh your rig/tongue before towing. some people are amazed at the weights they end up with.
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Old 09-19-2017, 07:35 PM   #18
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If you insist on towing with a vehicle with a 1500 lb towing capacity, and you want molded fiberglass, I'd suggest something like a Little Joe. Just over 1000 lbs dry weight. That would give you some headroom for items you store in the trailer. Even at that, you should still look at the GCWR, and the GVWR of your car to make sure it works.

I find it a much better approach to find the trailer you like, and that fits your needs - then find a suitable tow vehicle if yours isn't up to the task.
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Old 09-19-2017, 07:49 PM   #19
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I would personally have no concerns towing a basic, 13' Scamp with a CR-V. It is a study vehicle with a strong, reliable drivetrain. We actually own one, a 2006. For now we use our larger Pilot for towing duty because we travel with two teenagers, four bicycles, and lots of extra gear. Packed for all four of us we are at about 1750 pounds loaded. When it's just my wife and I, we should be able to whittle it down to around 1500 pounds. Our Scamp has a furnace, but no other major options.

Two caveats. One, trailer brakes are essential. Two, with an automatic you'll want an auxiliary transmission fluid cooler.
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Old 09-19-2017, 08:00 PM   #20
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While it may be possible to configure a Scamp to fit within your tow limit, you can forget a bathroom, air conditioner, and probably a refrigerator too.

And if you can get the trailer to somehow meet the 1500 pound limit, I really doubt you will be able to meet the 150 pound tongue weight limit. Typical tongue weight is 13% of trailer weight. If the tongue weight is too low, you end up with serious handling problems like trailer sway.

I thought about towing a trailer behind our Element (same drivetrain as the CRV). In the end, I was looking at motorcycle popup campers, like the Bunkhouse brand.

If you look at the spreadsheet trailer weights in the real world you will see Scamp 13s over 1500 pounds and over 150 pound tongue weight. Manufacturer dry weights are misleading at best.

The fact that others may have exceeded the weight limits of their tow vehicles is a personal decision and one I would not recommend.
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Old 09-19-2017, 09:40 PM   #21
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Thank you for all the advice as I am not so knowledgeable about certain trailers. I'm loving all the recommendations and appreciate any input. I thought I posted just a moment ago. I have 2013 CRV. I was told by the gal who renovates the Scamps that I would have no problem pulling a
13 ft.

I just looked up the Little Joe and that looks like all I need. I also heard the Perris Pacer is lightweight as well.
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Old 09-19-2017, 09:42 PM   #22
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I have a 2013 CR-V. I haven't heard of a Little Joe. Will look into that. What about a Perris Pacer? That is 900 lbs is what I was told.

The gal who was going to sell me a Scamp she fixed up said my car would be able to tow it. She wanted a little more than what I want to pay so I didn't buy it.
Can you tow it and SHOULD you tow it are two completely different things...please keep that in mind...my concerns are for you and the general publics safety not to mention your tow vehicles longevity...also, consider whether you will be towing on strictly flat ground or do you see mountains on the horizon...pay now or pay (exorbitanly) later...the choice remains yours................
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:15 PM   #23
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We had a 2011 CRV and bought a lightweight 2014 Scamp13 and pulled it without much trouble.

After searching for a used Scamp13 without success, we realized that there was little financial downside to purchasing new and configuring the trailer
to be as light as seemed practical. We realized that at resale, we shouldn't
lose too much money.

We left off the top-mounted AC, the furnace, the bathroom (with associated black tank, hot water heater, etc.), the awning, the wood interior, etc.

We did get the options package (refrigerator, screen door, two burner stove,
etc.) and we splurged on extra electrical outlets, lights, and overhead cabinets for clothes, etc.

Configuring a lightweight but enjoyable Scamp13 can be done. We did it.
Just be very mindful of the weight of any/all "nice to have" options. Think
minimalist.

When towing with a 4cyl automatic CRV, we often would tow using
the D3 button on the shifter to lock out the higher gears. Although the
engine sound will be a little different from the higher RPMs, the CRV
did OK for the most part. Hilly terrain and higher winds did cause a serious
loss in miles per gallon from our usual 18-19 mpg.

IIRC, the 2012 CRV was rated as having 5 more horsepower than our
2011.

Best of luck to you!

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Old 09-19-2017, 10:36 PM   #24
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Thank you. Definitely understand that.
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:38 PM   #25
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Thank you for responding. It is a lot to think about. Got a hitch and everything on my CR-V and was pretty excited but I have a lot to look into. I am glad I'm just starting out looking since I am in no rush.
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:08 PM   #26
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While it may be possible to configure a Scamp to fit within your tow limit, you can forget a bathroom, air conditioner, and probably a refrigerator too.

And if you can get the trailer to somehow meet the 1500 pound limit, I really doubt you will be able to meet the 150 pound tongue weight limit. Typical tongue weight is 13% of trailer weight. If the tongue weight is too low, you end up with serious handling problems like trailer sway.

I thought about towing a trailer behind our Element (same drivetrain as the CRV). In the end, I was looking at motorcycle popup campers, like the Bunkhouse brand.

If you look at the spreadsheet trailer weights in the real world you will see Scamp 13s over 1500 pounds and over 150 pound tongue weight. Manufacturer dry weights are misleading at best.

The fact that others may have exceeded the weight limits of their tow vehicles is a personal decision and one I would not recommend.
Although most vehicles' hitch weight rating is 10% of the tow rating (like 3500/350), this is not always true. Hitch weight rating is based on things like rear suspension, hitch receiver stoutness, and receiver attachment. If the vehicle in question has a higher tow rating when equipped differently (V6 for example), you can bet that the hitch weight rating remains higher even for the 4-cylinder. In other words, the rating might be 1500 lbs tow and 350 lbs hitch weight.

Then there are the unusual ones. I did a double-take when I saw that my Lexus GX, with 6500 lb tow rating, is ok with over 900 lbs on the hitch when WD is used!

After reading for years about Norm and Ginny towing their 16' Scamp for tens of thousands of miles with their CR-V 4-banger, I have some respect for that particular vehicle! Although I think Norm has a very light foot and never pushes the vehicle hard or fast... as reflected by their great gas mileage numbers with both the CR-V and their current Oddy.
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Old 09-19-2017, 11:20 PM   #27
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Thank you. I will just try and keep looking as much as I can. I wish the gal who I know that gets them would just charge me a finder's fee but she makes her money fixing them up so all the power to her.
She might well be the reason you are not finding an affordable one locally. When you flip trailers for a living you get very good at knowing how to locate one. It is quite likely she has a waiting list of persons who want her to find and renovate a Scamp for them. So you are not going to have an easy time of it beating her to the next nearby Scamp that gets listed.

For instance she has most likely created custom alerts on craigslist and on other sites that immediately alert her by email whenever a Scamp within a reasonable driving distance gets posted for sale. I would suggest that you do that as well. She is also likely a member of the forums where you find them posted for sale such as this one, vintage trailer forums, Sisters on the Fly, etc. By subscribing to the threads of the for sale items any member can get an email alert when new things are posted.
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Old 09-20-2017, 07:08 AM   #28
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I tow with a 13' Trillium with 4 cylinder Ford Escape with an automatic transmission. It's rated for 1500.

I have installed a transmission cooler and also brakes and brake controller.

I can't recommend towing with this set up. You must be very careful with the transmission and engine. Finding the "right" gear in an automatic means adjusting gears and RPMs with the gas pedal. You have to be very wary of any hills (no matter the size) and the speed in which you start the hill and the [slow] speed you will finish at.

I've towed only for the summer but already looking to upgrade. You don't need something with a huge towing capacity. But 1500lbs just isn't ideal. The engine and transmission just aren't up to towing.

Towing that much weight with a front wheel drive sucks too. You lose a lot of traction on the wheels that power AND steer. Not ideal.


Can you? Yes.
Should you? Not really.
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