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09-21-2017, 05:56 PM
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#41
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Junior Member
Name: Bob
Trailer: Currently Shopping
California
Posts: 4
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Hello everyone!
Looking forward to watching and learning from this forum! Seeking ideas!
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09-21-2017, 06:04 PM
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#42
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Junior Member
Name: Bob
Trailer: Currently Shopping
California
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon in AZ
You should steel yourself for some additional frustration in your search for a 13' trailer. They are in pretty high demand right now, so good ones fairly priced tend to disappear quickly, and some sellers feel justified in slapping a high price on a project trailer with lots of issues.
But don't despair. In spite of pessimistic prognostications from myself and others, one forum newbie recently managed to snag a very nice Scamp at a bargain price in two days from first post.
Just be prepared to kiss a frog or two... and walk away if it doesn't turn into a prince.
The smaller 13' trailers can easily exceed 1500 pounds loaded for travel, so you'll need to look for one without heavy options or modifications. You'll also need to pack lightly, including the vehicle, as tow ratings typically assume only 1 or 2 passengers and minimal cargo. Check the towing section of your owner's manual for all the caveats on that 1500 pound rating. One thing I'm sure you'll find is a requirement for trailer brakes. Not all 13'ers have them.
Best wishes in your "egg hunt"!
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Hello
You only have a 4 cylinder engine in a CRV and I wouldn't haul over 1000 pounds! I have a newer, old style Equinox, with 4 cylinder also and are looking at a Little Guy 5' wide teardrop. A bit pricey but like the options available and weight is 900 pounds! Hope my local dealer brings some in for 2018! Not much up here local in this category! Most are too heavy! Don't haul over 1000 pounds or you could cook your transmission. Just a suggestion. Bob L
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09-21-2017, 09:28 PM
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#43
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Senior Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: 2012 Escape 19
Oklahoma
Posts: 6,018
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Little Guy's MyPod teardrop is molded fiberglass. Little Guy Worldwide
And at the risk of being labeled a heretic, here's a molded FG tent trailer that weighs less than 300 lbs. Kompact Kamp Motorcycle Trailers
If you want to get out and camp with a trailer, there are ways to do it. You just might have to leave the kitchen sink (and a few other frills) at home.
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09-22-2017, 04:47 AM
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#44
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Member
Name: Olivier
Trailer: Trillium 1974
Saskatchewan
Posts: 37
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Be careful with people that renovate trailers. They usually dont know the camper you buy very well (never camped with it) and wont know if there is water leaks etc or where its coming from. They will do esthetic quick fixes. Thats what I did and thats exactly what is happening. The guy tells you the trailer is only 900 lbs and even a car can tow it etc... I dont want to generalize but thats what I experienced. next time ill buy from the trailer owner who knows his trailer.
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09-22-2017, 06:52 AM
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#45
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Junior Member
Name: Bob
Trailer: Currently Shopping
California
Posts: 4
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Some excellent advise!
If your CRV can pull 1500 pounds, that is good! As someone said, the quoted rates don't include things you load into your trailer, which have to be kept in mind!
Good hunting and yes be careful, good advise to talk to the owner who has used his trailer!
A very good forum guys!
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09-22-2017, 07:58 AM
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#46
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,912
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BobMarieLitt
Hello
You only have a 4 cylinder engine in a CRV and I wouldn't haul over 1000 pounds! I have a newer, old style Equinox, with 4 cylinder also and are looking at a Little Guy 5' wide teardrop. A bit pricey but like the options available and weight is 900 pounds! Hope my local dealer brings some in for 2018! Not much up here local in this category! Most are too heavy! Don't haul over 1000 pounds or you could cook your transmission. Just a suggestion. Bob L
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Not sure if that was meant for me or the OP, but since you referenced my earlier post, I will respond.
With the addition of a transmission cooler and proper use of lower gears, there is no particular reason you would be more likely to "cook the transmission" in this vehicle than others, assuming you are within the tow & hitch ratings, GVWR, GCWR, GAWR's... Honda's North American ratings are very conservative.
With a properly rated hitch, sway bar, correctly adjusted trailer brakes and controller, well-balanced trailer loading, and responsible driving- you will be at least as safe as anyone else out there towing a trailer. Contrary to oft-repeated advice, bigger does not automatically equate to safer. More powerful, yes, but not necessarily safer.
The late Bob Miller, who was about as hawkish as anyone I know on the subject of overweight towing, pulled a 13' L'il Bigfoot all over the West with a 3rd generation CR-V with an automatic transmission.
You will not win the race to the top of the hill. You may not get any better fuel economy while towing than a larger vehicle. Keeping the loading of trailer and vehicle within specs can be a challenge. If you plan to bring extra people, large pets, or recreational equipment- bicycles, kayaks, outdoor gazebos, etc.- it may well nix this plan.
But towing 1500 pounds with this vehicle, correctly set up and loaded within specs, does not make you a menace to man or machine.
BTW- I saw a MyPod for sale yesterday. It was parked in the overflow lot of the local casino/RV park, in town for the annual Fall Festival/vintage car show. I stopped and had a chat with the seller this morning. Seemed like a nice guy and a very clean trailer. PM me if you want more information. Here's a teaser for those who haven't seen a MyPod. Yes, it's molded fiberglass. No, it doesn't have a bathroom or a kitchen.
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09-22-2017, 11:14 AM
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#47
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Senior Member
Name: Kelly
Trailer: Trails West
Oregon
Posts: 3,046
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All this worry about towing with a 4 cylinder car. If you stay within the recommended ratings and drive sensibly there is not going to be a big issue.
There are lots of small trailers around that are suitable for pulling with the CRV. The original poster has already been given that information. Just look on the internet, you will see hundreds of photos of people pulling travel trailers with their CRVs.
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10-02-2017, 08:00 AM
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#48
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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towing
so many misconceptions on towing and towing vehickles. Here are my ideas you can flame me if you want.
I once towed a 32f 5th wheel with a dodge truck 3/4 318 motor. I even on occasion pulled along with that a 20 foot heavy fiberglass I/0 boat in tandem I didn't do it much.
did I go fast? No! did I want to go fast? No! I knew a guy who pulled his 32f 5th wheel with a dodge truck slant 6. He used all the tricks but he got there.
Our continued need for speed and power amuses me! We are spending big money needlessly. Our trucks and cars have transmissions use them watch the boys running the big semi s with huge loads they have plenty of power but they are constantly upshifting and downshifting. why because its easier on their stuff and cheaper to run!
Car manufactures underrate their stuff to protect themselves. Use common sense when towing you will get there! what is the hurry we are on vacation! my thoughts if I have to work and stress out to get there don't go!
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10-02-2017, 08:03 AM
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#49
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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jon truly spoken a man after my own heart
bob
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10-02-2017, 08:04 AM
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#50
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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How do old people get into those little guys?
bob
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10-02-2017, 08:21 AM
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#51
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Senior Member
Name: Jon
Trailer: 2008 Scamp 13 S1
Arizona
Posts: 11,912
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Quote:
Originally Posted by k0wtz
How do old people get into those little guys?
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Same way the young guys do: crawl in on hands and knees.
Since the whole unit is a bed, it's really not much different than crawling into a loft bed on a Scamp or Escape 5er, or any other non-walk-around bed. The difference is getting out of bed means exiting the myPod.
BTW, the seller was including the factory add-a-room tent for the back so you don't have to crawl out into the rain.
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10-02-2017, 08:58 AM
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#52
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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well I think I will stay with my Scamp I would rather camp in my tent than one of those but whatever you like not for old folks!
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10-02-2017, 10:10 AM
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#53
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,519
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wysiwyg
Be careful with people that renovate trailers. They usually dont know the camper you buy very well (never camped with it) and wont know if there is water leaks etc or where its coming from. They will do esthetic quick fixes. Thats what I did and thats exactly what is happening. The guy tells you the trailer is only 900 lbs and even a car can tow it etc... I dont want to generalize but thats what I experienced. next time ill buy from the trailer owner who knows his trailer.
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Good not to generalize, as we all know generalities are always false!
I assess the needs of a trailer for function and safety first, cosmetics come last. For instance...One of the most common things is to completely replace the DOT wiring from plug to taillights.
Many neglected trailers are rescued from oblivion and given a new life by hobby restorers who bring joy to new buyers who know a bargain when they see one, or simply can't afford a new trailer.
The trailers bought for rescue are bought from former owners who camped in them and neglected them or don't know them well enough to properly maintain them.
I have personally known several rescuers who are honest and knowledgeable hobbyists who have enjoyed the process and fun of saving a trailer for posterity and to see the smiles on the faces of the subsequent owners who enjoy them.
Budget constraints are a factor for both the rescuer and the buyer.
The rescuer must be frugal and resourceful with materials and often willing to work for a small fraction of minimum wage in order to satisfy this obsession with fiberglass trailers.
The renovator is really more likely to have the answers to the questions posed by the buyer.
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10-02-2017, 10:29 AM
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#54
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Senior Member
Trailer: 2004 13 ft Scamp Custom Deluxe
Posts: 8,519
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Quote:
Originally Posted by k corbin
All this worry about towing with a 4 cylinder car. If you stay within the recommended ratings and drive sensibly there is not going to be a big issue.
There are lots of small trailers around that are suitable for pulling with the CRV. The original poster has already been given that information. Just look on the internet, you will see hundreds of photos of people pulling travel trailers with their CRVs.
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Just to support your point...
1978 5.0L V8...130HP
2017 2.3L I4...350HP
1996 4.9L I6...119HP
The third being the most competent Tow engine of those three, but is now by far supplanted by a 2.7L V6 in a fullsized truck.
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10-02-2017, 09:54 PM
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#55
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Senior Member
Name: Mike
Trailer: 2012 Escape 19
Oklahoma
Posts: 6,018
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Didn't that I6 generate about 130 HP? Nice flat torque curve up to about 3000 RPM, without a turbo... definitely nice for towing, all right.
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10-02-2017, 10:07 PM
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#56
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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I saw a crv the other day the first one I have seen those must be powerful little buggers they are nice looking though. I cannot believe rated for 1500lbs that would haul my Scamp 13f nicely!
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10-02-2017, 10:32 PM
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#57
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Administrator
Name: Mary
Trailer: 2015 Escape 21; formerly Casita 1999 17 ft Liberty Deluxe
Posts: 10,941
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Quote:
Originally Posted by k0wtz
Here are my ideas you can flame me if you want.
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Flaming not allowed. Please don't encourage them!
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10-02-2017, 10:46 PM
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#58
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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sorry mary board I was on they would jump on you if they disagreed with you I wont make that statement again. sorry!
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10-02-2017, 10:47 PM
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#59
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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I would like to see old people getting dressed in one of those?
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10-03-2017, 07:45 AM
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#60
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: Was A-Liner now 13f Scamp
Missouri
Posts: 3,209
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jon if you don't mind send me a p/m as to what your are trying to relay if you don't mind? thanks bob
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