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Old 04-07-2015, 09:15 AM   #15
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Welcome to the forum. And, good luck with your search for a trailer that fits you and your family.
During your consideration, you may want to take a look at this thread. It has some good explanations of tongue weight, weight distribution and trailer sway. Also mentioned are electric trailer brakes which I see the Alto has.
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Old 04-07-2015, 10:12 AM   #16
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I think that the point that's trying to be made is that even an (alleged) 1500 lb. dry weight will be way to heavy for your TV's towing capacity when loaded for full timing. Looking at the chart you will see that any number of 13' FGRV's, while about 1200-1500 lbs dry, are well over 2200 lbs loaded to go.


Plus, what ever you do to your VW, it won't increase it's towing capacity 1 oz., that's a fixed value.

You will also find out that CA state Parks are very expensive for full timing, seldom have hook-ups, and are frequently located where on-line access can be difficult.

BTW: You won't find much information/support here for the Alto trailers as we are 99% molded fiberglass trailers.
Thanks, Bob. As I mentioned in my first post, we're also looking into Scamps / Casitas. Last I checked, those were molded fiberglass.

I'll be picking a trailer based on what my car can tow, not the other way around, and I'm not doing this tomorrow, so I have plenty of time to figure out what will work best for me. I spent a long time researching the longest lasting car there is, and I'm not willing to trade that for something else just to tow a camper. If need be, we'll just get a pop up tent camper that's much lighter.
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Old 04-07-2015, 10:51 AM   #17
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Casey,

There have been a lot of well intentioned comments on what you can or not tow with a VW. My suggestion is that you contact people directly who actually tow with a VW.

If you like the Alto, I'd contact Alto and ask if they have owners towing with a VW TDI. I have met two of them. I also believe that Can-AM RV sells Altos as well as Airstreams and ask their opinion about towing an Alto (or any trailer) with a VW TDI.

By the way, we considered the Alto when we switched from a motor home to a small trailer. Ginny thought too much glass.

Also we like parts of CA, particularly the northern portion. After traveling most of North America, we've decided that there are at least 1,000 towns we could live happily in.

As to fresh air, fresh fruits and vegetables, there are numerous areas like this. We've been eating just picked broccoli, strawberries, tomatoes and oranges since December, blueberries are just being picked.

The more we travel the more we seek a mentally healthy environment, sane, friendly people, low crime, reasonable government, ......

We definitely wish you well in your search.
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Old 04-07-2015, 10:57 AM   #18
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Good plan.... but I've got both an FGRV and a pop-up tent trailer in my driveway that I have restored, and few would be very happy full timing in the latter for long. A few dirty little secrets about pop-up tent campers are:
1. The smaller ones have very limited storage space.
2. The bigger ones get heavy very fast, even the smaller ones can weigh as much as a small FGRV
3. They usually have very limited carrying capacity over dry weight.
4. If it ever rains again in CA most will leak.


On the plus side, they are cheeeeep to buy and rebuild. I bought this one for $300 and restored it for my son & his wife. 1988 Palomino Pop-Up Trailer Photos by advocateone | Photobucket


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Old 04-08-2015, 01:27 AM   #19
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Unhappy You may be in luck but then again...

Welcome to FGRV.

Altos are apparently made in Canada - the price on the website, $29,590, is in CAD which converts to $23,700 US.

Your problem though, is not that the tow capacity of a VW Golf TDI in the US is 0#, (check your owner's manual to be sure) but that if you ever have an accident towing overweight like that. Lawyers love people that do that.

This is a popular link:

Proper Tow Vehicles A Must!

Google overweight towing and you will find that you are taking a big chance doing so.
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Yep, I see that's the most popular link to post around here when anyone mentions towing even a pound over factory limits. The tow rating in the manual is not 0.
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Old 04-08-2015, 10:01 AM   #21
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Im a Current owner of a 2006 Evolution pop up and a new member in SE Pa.
We have a great west Trillium style trailer on order for a may pick up. I will post more on the process as it occurs
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Old 04-08-2015, 12:23 PM   #22
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Welcome to FGRV.

Your problem though, is not that the tow capacity of a VW Golf TDI in the US is 0#, (check your owner's manual to be sure) but that if you ever have an accident towing overweight like that. Lawyers love people that do that.

This is a popular link:

Proper Tow Vehicles A Must!

Google overweight towing and you will find that you are taking a big chance doing so.
This article has been posted a number of times. Was he overweight? How fast was he going? Why didn't he actuate his trailer brakes and stop the sway?

What was the actual cause?

Did the driver test his trailer brakes in the after hooking up? DId he even know how to manual actuate his trailer brakes?

How many of us practice the motion of manually activating our trailer brakes every day? How many of us test our trailer brakes?

Just because there's an accident or a lawsuit doesn't mean he had an undersize tow vehicle. From what I read most trailer accidents are the result of not checking to see the ball is latched by the hitch.

I have met a number of people, I believe actually one person on this site, who has dumped their trailer with a large tow vehicle. By far the driver is the most important component when driving.
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Old 04-08-2015, 01:26 PM   #23
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a pop up may weight the same
you would be happyer with a 16 footer
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Hey there Friday..... There was a good program on last year where David Suzuki traveled across Canada with his daughter. They used a Golf with a small 16' trailer. It did require a custom, pro installed 2" receiver to accommodate the WDH. By doing this it reduced the hitch weight that was acting on the rear of the vehicle. Seemed to work well.
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Your problem though, is not that the tow capacity of a VW Golf TDI in the US is 0#, (check your owner's manual to be sure) but that if you ever have an accident towing overweight like that. Lawyers love people that do that.

Google overweight towing and you will find that you are taking a big chance doing so.
I agree. Folks should always tow within the safe capabilities of their vehicle.

I was just wondering.....

I was driving on the highway the other day cruising with the rest of the traffic. Speed limit was 100klm's per hour and the flow was travelling over 110kph. No doubt if someone caused an accident the lawyers would be all over them.

Seems there is a risk factor with being out on the roadways and no one seems to be taking about 95% of the folks out there that drive over the speed limit.

Not saying it is right or wrong. Just saying.
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You believe Suzuki actually did the towing do you?
Amazing how they could find wonderful grassed campsites in places like downtown Vancouver, and they were the only ones there. <_<
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You believe Suzuki actually did the towing do you?
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Knowing well David Suzuki's ecological views I would suspect he would rather tow a trailer with a bicycle but he is getting a little old for that.
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Never mind that he owns four homes?
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