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Old 03-25-2015, 10:21 PM   #15
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The tow rating on my truck is around 8000 lb, but different models of the same truck have different ratings. It is a little hard to see the front corners on mine, more so than some other trucks I test drove, but this was the best one of what I found so went with it. Did test drive another Dodge, it was the full crew cab and 8 foot bed, that one was LONG. Towed our Casita 1200 miles south for the winter and then back home. Tows it great. Camped all winter with a guy that owns the same truck as mine and he tows a 28 foot stickie trailer.
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Old 03-26-2015, 06:05 AM   #16
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Thanks for all the advice, I might get the truck on Thursday. Tonight I got there too late, but I saw the truck up close. It was ENORMOUS. I've only owned 4-cylinder cars for the 30 years I've been driving, and this truck was the biggest vehicle I've ever seen. I was actually glad I didn't get it last night, because I was afraid to try and park it at night in the rain. Where I live, the cars are scrunched together, so I may have to park it down the street. If this deal goes through, then the Casita is next, and then off to live in an RV park.
Bill.... I'm not feeling your direction. You are getting way too much truck for your needs. They are big and bulky, use a lot of gas and are not that reliable. There are many vehicles that will tow a Casita that are less costly, more capable, and a lot more fun to drive and handle.
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Old 03-26-2015, 07:15 AM   #17
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Bill.... I'm not feeling your direction. You are getting way too much truck for your needs. They are big and bulky, use a lot of gas and are not that reliable. There are many vehicles that will tow a Casita that are less costly, more capable, and a lot more fun to drive and handle.
Hmm. Unreliable would not be good on 17 hour trips. There is a chance I would want to go as large as one of the FG 5th wheels, so I was thinking a bigger truck would be more likely to pull the trailer. I also expect to go over the Rocky Mountains at some point, and was afraid of ending up with a truck that was unable to pull a trailer up an incline. I've never had a vehicle that could pull more than 2k lbs, so I don't know what I'm doing.

I also wanted a vehicle in which I could survive hitting a deer, or being hit by another car, which was another reason I liked the fact that the truck was big. Maybe I should be looking at a smaller truck?
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Old 03-26-2015, 07:36 AM   #18
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I also wanted a vehicle in which I could survive hitting a deer, or being hit by another car, which was another reason I liked the fact that the truck was big. Maybe I should be looking at a smaller truck?
The 150, 1500 series pickups can now tow over 10,000lbs well within your range of fiberglass trailer.

There are other vehicle types that have very precise steering and agility. The thought is that one is far better off having the ability of avoiding hitting a dear or avoiding an accident that getting into one.
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Old 03-26-2015, 07:45 AM   #19
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The 150, 1500 series pickups can now tow over 10,000lbs well within your range of fiberglass trailer.

There are other vehicle types that have very precise steering and agility. The thought is that one is far better off having the ability of avoiding hitting a dear or avoiding an accident that getting into one.
Ok, I called the car place and said I was going to look around a little more, and look for a smaller vehicle. I was going to pick it up in a few hours!

Reliability is very important to me, so I will keep an eye out for what people say is most reliable.

Wow, I didn't know the smaller trucks could pull that much. I had not looked at pickups because my original goal was a van, but now I like pickups because they tend to have 4wd and can pull a 5th wheel. I can also put a camper shell on the back, and it is sorta like a van. Ok, I'm starting over. I still may end up with the Ram 2500, it sounds more than capable, but it may in fact be way more than I need. I am definitely going with a FG trailer, so that gives me an idea what tow ratings to look for.

I think I will look for something new or very low miles that is less than $30k if possible.
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Old 03-26-2015, 08:18 AM   #20
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towing

If you are set on a truck and a new one .Your choices are
1500 series in Chevy ,Ram or F150 Ford .These will have a v-6 motor or V-8 and be able to tow anywhere from 4000 lb -9500 lb maybe more they keep changing tow options? They will get 14-25 mpg depending on what you believe their propaganda .
Ram also has a V-6 diesel in a 1500 or 1/2 ton truck as they used to be called

2500 series in Ram and Chevy or f-250 Ford These are 3/4 ton pickups that have V-8 gas or 6 or 8 cylinder diesels . these are capable of towing 5000-15000 lb or more .

Then you have the smaller pickups by Toyota ,Nissan and now GMC and Chevy These are not small trucks they weigh in at over 4000lb and get almost the same mpg as their 1500 big trucks from Ram ,Chevy and Ford and Toyota Tundra models .

If you want a 5th wheel fiberglass RV then there are 3 companies that sell them Escape ,Big foot ,and Scamp .The smaller trucks will handle the escape and scamp easily except for maybe the big foot ?

I hope this helps the 2500 Ram is way way overkill for a 2500-3000lb Casita .Good Luck in your endeavors and search JIM
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Old 03-26-2015, 11:11 AM   #21
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William,

I agree that the previous truck you were considering was overkill for a
Casita or Scamp 16/17 ft trailer.

I also agree that reliability is an important consideration in a tow vehicle.

If you go to an RV park and move fairly infrequently, fuel economy might
not be a huge issue. However, if you are exploring the country and moving
about a lot, fuel economy might become a consideration in your total RVing
costs.

Another factor to consider is how big a vehicle you want to drive and park
for grocery shopping an other normal errands on a frequent basis.

There is at least one school of thought that suggests that diesel engines
and turbocharged engines are best for towing because of their higher
torque at lower rpms.

We have had large vans and mini-vans in recent years and my wife
didn't particularly want to drive and park another large vehicle. We now
drive a 2014 Ford Escape 2.0L Ecoboost (turbo) SUV that has sufficient
torque and horsepower to pull a 16/17 ft trailer if we decide that our
Scamp13 is too small to meet future longer duration traveling needs.

The new aluminum Ford F-150 with an EcoBoost engine might be
something you might want to investigate. As mentioned, there seem
to be a new crop of Eco-diesel vehicles that are now becoming
available. Perhaps largely based on past reliability experience, another
forum member pulls a 16 ft Scamp with a new Honda Odyssey with
fairly good success.

When selecting a tow vehicle, I might suggest taking a look at the
engine torque at your expected towing rpm.

Here are a couple of URLs that may serve as "food for thought".

Towing - horsepower versus torque
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/information/horsepower-versus-torque1.htm 

Stout EcoBoost I-4 Plays Well Above Weight Class
http://wardsauto.com/vehicles-amp-technology/stout-ecoboost-i-4-plays-well-above-weight-class

As always, YMMV.

You should pick something with the reliability, comfort, and towing
capability that you can be happy with.


Good luck on your search!

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Old 03-26-2015, 12:01 PM   #22
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IThe one thing I don't like about trailers, is not being in the cab of the tow vehicle. If someone causes trouble for me while boondocking, I would have to exit the trailer to get in the tow-vehicle to leave.
Back in the 1970's Dad had some trouble in the middle-of-nowhere in Mexico. As he described it some "Banditos" were rocking the truck and slide-in camper he and my Stepmom were sleeping in and shouting for him to throw money out so they would leave him alone. Instead, he opened the back door and tossed two shots into the dirt behind the rig (yes I know this will give some vapors just reading that, just go with it, all the identifiable participants have passed on). He then eased out and around the camper with his keys in one hand and the pistol in the other. He got in the cab and did not stop till he got to "civilization" as he put it. My Stepmom described it as one wild ride in the truck camper.

I'm saying anything with a "Hemi" ought to make a fine tug. A classic Charger or other old (or new) Mopar muscle machine would be a pretty cool tow rig. I have a 1965 Coronet myself, but alas it has only a Slant Six under the hood. Bet it would still tow my Scamp though.
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I am always thinking of the least vehicle I can tow my trailers with. Kind of ironic, since I actually tow with a Savana 1500. I think the least vehicle I would tow my under 3500 lb trailers with would be a Ford Ranger, 4 cylinder, five speed.
Mini vans are also a good choice. They break the wind for the trailer. We also tow with a Safari.
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:12 PM   #24
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I'll might as well put my oar in to. We pull our Escape 5.0 with a Nissan Frontier and it does a marvelous job of it. We know of another person who has the same rig and has been towing with it for 5 years and 50,000 miles trouble free. The Frontier has a very reliable 4 liter engine with 260 horse power and a 6500 lb. towing capacity.
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:42 PM   #25
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Camper or not?

I would note that the poster said that they may want to put a camper shell on the back. I know with my 2011 Ram 1500 that it is not an option to carry a camper but it is rated to tow just shy of 10000# with the towing package and 3.92 gear ratio. If the OP is thinking of a camper 3/4 ton (2500) would be the minimum to go. Fuel economy will suck though I speak from experience as I am getting ready for my own 9000 km trip pulling the Boler starting Friday.
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Old 03-26-2015, 06:40 PM   #26
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I think he was referring to a cap vs a truck camper, caps are sometimes called a shell. Perhaps he can clarify his intent. A shell on a Ram 1500 is about 2-300 lbs depending on the build.
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Old 03-26-2015, 07:26 PM   #27
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Oops, yes I meant to say "cap" when I said "shell", not a camper like a Lance. I'm still going through all the comments, thank you everyone for replying. I have a few questions:

1) Does it matter if a pickup is rear-wheel only drive, or should it be 4WD? I think I read front-wheel drive was not a good idea. I am using some online car-building guides, and they ask if you want 2WD or 4WD.

2) It seems like the Ram 1500 & 2500 cannot carry much weight in the bed (compared to Ford), but can pull a lot. Is that correct? I was toying with the idea of getting a truck-camper (like a Lance), which would seem to exclude the Ram pickups.

3) If I want the option of living in a truck-camper (like a Lance), is it important to get an "extended" length bed in back?

I am currently leaning towards a 2015 F150, regular cab, standard bed, 4WD, XL package. The max towing is 7400 lbs. The website has a "truevalue" of $29k. I don't think this car has an "EcoBoost" I keep reading about.
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If you can set aside the idea of getting a 5th wheel Bill I would be looking at a Mini Van. Toyota or Honda with front wheel drive will deliver on all your needs and will do them well. Better ride than a truck and more reliable.
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