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Old 03-26-2015, 07:46 PM   #29
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If you are going to use a truck camper you will need a 3/4 ton truck, a Ram 2500 or Ford
F250 to carry the weight of the camper which will be around 1200 lbs minimum dry and closer to 2000 lbs wet. Plus adding the tongue weight will be another 4-500 lbs. There is a saying, never buy a cord of wood from someone driving a pick up truck, you will need add least a small dump truck due to the weight. A 1/2 ton truck will not work for you.
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Old 03-26-2015, 11:44 PM   #30
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I could be wrong, but I think that the 2015 F-150 has two optional
Ecoboost engines; a 2.7L and a 3.5L

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Old 03-27-2015, 05:55 AM   #31
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We have been pulling with a 2003 Honda Odyssey van for the past seven years. The van had 113,000 miles when purchased and now has 210,000. In that time we have purchased a battery and it needs a second set of tires. It's been super reliable. We get about 15-17 mpg pulling our 16' Scamp SB for the first five years and now it pulls a 17' Casita. Our intention is to purchase a newer Odyssey in the next year or two. Our previous tow vehicle was a 2002 Chevy diesel pickup. It was huge, drove like a tank, and got poor fuel mileage, even when not pulling. We like the better ride, fuel mileage, and smaller footprint of the Odyssey. TETO

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Old 03-27-2015, 08:02 AM   #32
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William,

Our Honda CRV is AWD. Because we have planned to go south in the winter and north in
the summer (and because the AWD option would have cost us more purchase dollars and
likely have cost a couple of towing MPGs), our 2014 Ford Escape 2.0L Ecoboost was
configured with FWD.

The FWD Escape actually performed well (traction-wise) in the winter storm Octavia
white-out/blizzard that we encountered on our way home from Scamp Camp 2015 (in
Sebring, Fl) and our recent fuel economy (towing a minimum-weight Scamp13) has been
in the 21-25 mpg range ( see Eggcamper Weight, Tongue Weight & Towing with Outback ).

Although I have towed with a RWD vehicle many years ago, I will leave that for someone
else (with more recent experience) to comment on.

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Old 03-27-2015, 08:12 AM   #33
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The FWD Escape actually performed well (traction-wise) in the winter storm Octavia white-out/blizzard
Hi RD, maybe I had read that a FWD was no good when towing a 5th wheel, but was fine for towing a regular trailer. That might make sense. It seems a lot of people are fine towing with FWD, so I must have misunderstood what I read.

It just occurred to me that a family member was considering selling their 2003 Toyota Tacoma 4WD V6 Prerunner Doublecab, maybe I will check if it is still available. It appears to have a tow rating of 5k lbs. That could save me a lot of money, if I could figure out how to get it from 2000 miles away. Maybe I could one-way rent a car? 2003 is kinda old though, but I know the truck is in excellent shape.
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Old 03-27-2015, 08:32 AM   #34
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if I could figure out how to get it from 2000 miles away.

There's a company that sets up people to transport vehicles around the country. Can't think of the name now, but a friend did it a couple times when he needed to get from Arizona to the east coast. Basically he drove the car to where the owner wanted it delivered. I think one time he had to pay for the gas, but sometimes the vehicle owner will pay it. I had a pickup truck shipped from Arizona to upstate NY several years ago on one of those car hauler big rigs. Cost me $1000. You could also try Uship.
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Old 03-27-2015, 08:41 AM   #35
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It just occurred to me that a family member was considering selling their 2003 Toyota Tacoma 4WD V6 Prerunner Doublecab, maybe I will check if it is still available. It appears to have a tow rating of 5k lbs. That could save me a lot of money, if I could figure out how to get it from 2000 miles away. Maybe I could one-way rent a car? 2003 is kinda old though, but I know the truck is in excellent shape.

That sounds like a great option to me. It would pull any but the largest fiberglass trailers, it would likely be reliable, and its compact size, high clearance, and 4WD would be perfect for boondocking. You might want to check one thing though- I thought the "Prerunner" designation meant a raised suspension but 2WD. If so, it would still be fine for towing most places.

As to getting it, what's wrong with flying?
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Hi RD, maybe I had read that a FWD was no good when towing a 5th wheel, but was fine for towing a regular trailer. That might make sense. It seems a lot of people are fine towing with FWD, so I must have misunderstood what I read.

FWD is fine for smaller trailers, but not as good for heavier trailers. When you add weight to the back, weight is transferred from the front (drive) axle to the rear axle and traction is diminished. On the highway, you probably won't notice, but going up a gravel incline you might. Some people overcome this by using a weight distributing hitch, but many FWD vehicles advise against a WDH. Personally, if I were planning to tow anything over 2500# or so, or if I planned to spend much time on unpaved roads, I'd want RWD or 4WD/AWD.
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Old 03-27-2015, 09:56 AM   #37
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It just occurred to me that a family member was considering selling their 2003 Toyota Tacoma 4WD V6 Prerunner Doublecab, maybe I will check if it is still available. It appears to have a tow rating of 5k lbs. That could save me a lot of money, if I could figure out how to get it from 2000 miles away. Maybe I could one-way rent a car? 2003 is kinda old though, but I know the truck is in excellent shape.
13 year old truck, but than again that era Tacoma is one of the most reliable vehicles ever made. Depending on the mileage and the price that might be perfect for what your looking for. Also if it doesn't work out you can probably sell it for close to what it will cost you.
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Old 03-27-2015, 10:01 AM   #38
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Much is possible with a small SUV.

We towed a trailer across Labrador when it was a 1000 mile dirt road in 2008, virtually totally gravel with more 10% grades than I've ever seen and even an 18% grade. We towed a 2200 pound Sunline with our 2004, 4 cylinder Honda CRV and never had a single issue. Of course we did not make it a practice to stop in the middle of a severe grade. Our Honda was more loaded than normal because we carried a small generator and a second spare tire.

We have towed a 2600 pound Scamp and a 2800 pound Casita 16 with the CRV and never had a a traction issue.

Our CRV did have on demand 4 wheel drive but it never once came into play. IN 10 years the 4wd only was used twice and not when towing. We did not have a weight distribution hitch.

It is neglected that it takes very little to horsepower to tow these small trailers. As well these small tow vehicles, particularly with a manual transmission can be well controlled for most situations.

The secondary benefit of a small tow vehicle is that you can get decent mileage and comfort when you are not towing, more than half our driving when traveling around the country.

In seven years of towing with FWD we have never had a single traction issue (or mechanical failure). When we traded it in the CRV had the original clutch.
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Old 03-27-2015, 10:17 AM   #39
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Two weeks after I gave my daughter my old Ford Explorer it blew a head gasket. If I had sold it to her I expect there would have been some upset.
I would not buy or sell a vehicle to a relative or friend and I certainly wouldn't haul a vehicle that old across the country.
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We bought a vehicle from a friend, worked out great, still driving it several years later. Sold a vehicle to a relative, that didn't work good at all. Had a 30 year old vehicle transported across country because of what it was and still drive it too.
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FWD is fine for smaller trailers, but not as good for heavier trailers. When you add weight to the back, weight is transferred from the front (drive) axle to the rear axle and traction is diminished. On the highway, you probably won't notice, but going up a gravel incline you might. Some people overcome this by using a weight distributing hitch, but many FWD vehicles advise against a WDH. Personally, if I were planning to tow anything over 2500# or so, or if I planned to spend much time on unpaved roads, I'd want RWD or 4WD/AWD.
Our 23' has a GVWR of 5,800lbs. With our FWD van we had no traction issues ever. As you posted a WDH is a must and with the advantage of the engine/tranny weight being on the drive wheels it only gets better with 4WD.
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I will just speak from my own experience here. Last year we took our 13' Scamp into a backcountry lake with our FWD Pilot. Coming out we had to make a sharp left followed by a moderate climb on slippery gravel. Halfway up I began to lose traction and the stability control system intervened by depowering the engine and applying brakes. Stopped me cold halfway up the grade. I had to back down, turn off the stability control, and make another run, front wheels spinning, to get up the slope.

I do not think a FWD-only vehicle is the best choice if boondocking is intended.
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