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Old 12-24-2016, 01:05 AM   #43
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I'm too blonde to figure out how to respond to each post. Seriously though....why didn't they teach me useful stuff in college?! Like tongue weights!?! But noooo, it was all "Plato blah blah blah". :rolaeyes: Can I insert responses to specific posts, or do I need to just put all the responses at the end of the thread?

Bobbie - ssshhhhh, re: le Campster - at least let me find out my wimpy-car specs.

Re: Tabs - YES, there's one for sale near me - but nooo, because it's too heavy.

Not shockingly, the Subaru folk didn't want to spend their time talking to me today. I'll wait til after christmas, and will return (triumphant?) with the news. If I Wasn't so set on going up to Tahoe I'd just slowly coast to....the coast. But...Tahoe Is where I want to go, so WimpySub needs to be able to pull whatever it is up hills. In the summer.

If I can't pull a decent camper I may just turn the car itself into a decent camper!

Oh, and.......if I Do find out that my year was one of the head-gasket-problem years - and if I haven't head work done on it yet (can't find records right now) - could anyone advise me re: what I should do?

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The head gasket problem hit about 180,000 miles on my 2000. A little earlier on Mom's 02.
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The new ones are rated at 1500. Yours is 2400. Don't listen to anyone who says you can't tow a small trailer. Just aim to stay under about 1500 dry weight (the lower the better). I agree with you- no point trading in a great car with only 80,000 miles on it. People will tell you a lot of stuff but not very many of them have towed for 8 years with a Subaru Forester as I have.

One thing you should try to do (but maybe can't for a few months) is go visit a fiberglass RV rally somewhere and see what's out there. Find out if the older trailers tend to have enough allergens to bother you (they don't bother me but I'm probably not as sensitive- though I can guarantee obvious mildew or mold would bother me.). You might look at the Winter rally coming up in California but don't know how many rigs will be there.

A Campster would be a great choice for weight. Some of the Compacts are light enough, too. Do you have a place to store it indoors? (Garage?) Teardrops are nice but I really like being able to stand up inside the trailer.
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Lil guy teardrop, meerkat, and T@B are all made by lil guy. New, these trailers sell for close to $10k and up. My father in law picked up a used T@B for about half that. Not fiberglass but nice trailer.

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Hmmm. There are so many Tiny, tiny trailer options out in just the last few years though; there's a huge market. Oh well.... VW just came out with a new Westfalia, and it's called The California. And it would sell like mad - but they're Not releasing it in the US. So strange.
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Old 12-24-2016, 01:54 AM   #44
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Bobbie for the win!!!! Tadaaaa!

2003 Subaru Forester -

Maximum total trailer weight = 2400lbs
Tongue Weight = 200lbs

At least that's what the manual says. I'll still run the VIN # to double check.
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There wasn't any recall or anything on the head gaskets so you just wait until you have a problem. My mechanic warned me about it late in 2011 but as I was planning on trading it in soon I was going to ignore it- and a few months later I had to get it fixed. But that's the model before yours so not sure there- just google it and see what forum people say.

For future reference- if you google "2003 Subaru Forester towing" Edmunds comes right up with towing capacity.
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Do not exceed the Manfactures specifications that are listed in the owners manual.

When you do that you put yourself and others at risk. Should something bad happen and you cause harm to others and/or their property and it is determined you exceeded the specifications you then put your fortune at risk at losing it in the law suit.
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Beware Edmonds. It does not always give accurate towing information (personal experience!). Your owner's manual is the best source of information. The VIN number is only helpful if you need to verify whether your vehicle was built with any required towing upgrades.

2400/200 sounds right, but since travel trailers generally require 10-12% of their total weight on the tongue to avoid a tendency to sway, you are effectively limited to a 1700-2000 pound travel trailer, not 2400 pounds. That's a maximum, so I would personally try to stay somewhat below that, especially since you will be towing in hilly country. Even better if it is a low-profile model like a Hunter Compact Jr. or Trailswest Campster (Hunter Compact I and II are different- wider and heavier).

A number of basic 13'ers fit the bill. Best wishes finding yours!
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Beware Edmonds. It does not always give accurate towing information (personal experience!). Your owner's manual is the best source of information. The VIN number is only helpful if you need to verify whether your vehicle was built with any required towing upgrades.

2400/200 sounds right, but since travel trailers generally require 10-12% of their total weight on the tongue to avoid a tendency to sway, you are effectively limited to a 1700-2000 pound travel trailer, not 2400 pounds. That's a maximum, so I would personally try to stay somewhat below that, especially since you will be towing in hilly country. Even better if it is a low-profile model like a Hunter Compact Jr. or Trailswest Campster (Hunter Compact I and II are different- wider and heavier).

A number of basic 13'ers fit the bill. Best wishes finding yours!
Subaru's manual says something like 8-11 (or 12)% for tongue weight, but I agree, 10% is better for towing a trailer (having done it too light at times.)

Edmonds has been right for the Subarus where there is only one rating per year. What I've found on some other vehicles is that frequently they list one when there are other ratings depending on configuration so you have to dig to find out what you want.
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The tongue weight ranges given by manufacturers allow for different trailer types. Because of their geometry, boat trailers are towed with 7-10% tongue weight. Most sources recommend 10-15% for travel trailers.
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I calculated it and the reason Subaru says 8 at the lower end is the 2400 rating. 200/2400 is 8.3%. I've always aimed for 10% or slightly higher (boat and trailer). I do think the trailer would be less stable if you went to 2400 lbs (unless your trailer, like some of the teardrops, has the wheels set way back.

The other thing to keep in mind for the OP (in California) is that with or without brakes the rating is 1000 lbs for sustained uphill driving in hot weather (in other words, you are going to overheat if you try to tow that 2000 lbs uphill when it's 100 degrees outside, and it better be 100 inside, too, or your AC is going to add to the strain). But she isn't likely to want to do that, anyway, who wants to camp if it is that hot? I did detour to 101 on my last trip north with the trailer as it was going to be over 100 in Redding and I didn't want to do that with a full trailer. That was before I knew Subaru specifically cautioned against it.
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Re: Not going over the tow limit and putting other people at risk - I'm not sure why you would do that. Nowhere at all have I said anything about going over the limit, or even going Up to the limit - so not sure where that's coming from. I would Never do that. Maybe you're just randomly saying that - but if it's pointed at me in particular you are mistaken re: who I am and why I'm here.
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Ugh. Can someone tell me how I can respond to individual messages, so I'm not just giving a list of replies in a row? I'm so used to Facebook I'm probably just not seeing something obvious. Sorry. To Jon, yes, I agree. Especially as a newbie who doesn't understand 'how things work' as far as putting weight in different places, I agree that I want to be as low as possible. I'm even looking at the Burro; I would prefer it actually. I like that no one else can stay in it. Haha. Thank you for your help!
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That's really good to know. I wouldn't even have thought of that. Yeah, I'm not fond of 100 degree weather, but hey, if it Is 100 degree I may as well be by Lake Tahoe. In a tent I guess. I should look in the 'feeding and caring for' section. Hopefully there are more tips like this. Thanks!
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Ugh. Can someone tell me how I can respond to individual messages, so I'm not just giving a list of replies in a row? Thank you for your help!
You might try hitting the quote button on the message you want to respond to. You can edit the quote if you are only responding to a particular comment, just leave the quote markers at the beginning and end.

You're welcome.
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But then the title goes away.

I tried that - but as the title said....the title goes away. Which is just...strange to have to go back to get the title and paste it in. But it could be the way it's set up

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I wouldn't worry about the title. It's only important for the first post because it sets the topic for the thread. The FGRV app doesn't display individual post titles, so app users (like me most of the time) won't see your title anyway. Drives me crazy when people put the main point in the title and the rest of the post doesn't even make sense without it.

Including the quote is more helpful than a title, especially when the response is separated by several unrelated posts, but we can usually figure it out. If you multi-quote, you can insert the response under each quote, as in quote-response-quote-response..., which makes it easy to follow.

Don't worry too much in any case. People here are very helpful!
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