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Old 01-28-2015, 11:13 AM   #29
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Still the confusion. We know that VW originally listed the tow rating as 2,200KG (4,500+ LBS) when they designed the vehicle. Your VW dealer stated it was good for 4,500+ LBs.

Seems to me when they wrote the manual in North America the pencil pusher probably didn't know the difference between KG's and LB's and probably just changed the KG to LBS. That makes more sense.
WOW valid point! It makes sense since the next up in line (the Toureg) can haul 7700 lbs
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Old 01-28-2015, 11:25 AM   #30
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Please see Post #28.....
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Old 01-28-2015, 11:34 AM   #31
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The KG rather than LB was what I thought was correct but when I went out to my car and looked into the manual it's 2200LB. I'm waiting for some brochures from Casita to look at the Casita 13. It's a start.
Trailer manufacturers use a weight in the brochure that is a fantasy. Does not typically include most of the appliances, or propane tank. No water on board, no gear, probably without cushions even.

Use the trailer weights in the real world list as a starting point. Those are trailers as the really are, not as some basic shell unlike the brochure weight that has no relationship to what you will really be towing.

Since they all do it to some greater or lesser extent I suppose one can compare brochure to brochure but even that won't be accurate since the manufactures all decide for themselves how to arrive at the weight they publish. Helps to have a low title weight in some states when buying plates, insurance etc. so it is not all bad that the title understates the weight.

Essentially if there are "options" for the item the item is not counted in the weight. You could order 1 propane tank or two, or even none so propane tanks being variable are not counted at all. Same with bathroom, or fridge, or furnace.

They do the same with length. A camper length in brochure includes the tongue and bumper. A Scamp 13 ft. is really only a 10 ft. shell.
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Old 01-31-2015, 06:18 PM   #32
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I solved my towing question. I got a new Chevy Colorado Z71! Now I feel so much safer.
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Old 01-31-2015, 07:40 PM   #33
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The Audi. Q5 HAS A TOW RATING OF 4400LB SAME 2 LITRE ENGINE SO MAYBE VW IS 4400 LB ? TIQUAN AND Q 5 LOOK LIKE THEY ARE ON SAME PLATFORM ?
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Old 01-31-2015, 08:08 PM   #34
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Although the o.p has solved the VW problem with another vehicle, trying to guess tow ratings by comparing engines & platforms can be very deceptive.


As an example, in the case of the 2003 2 dr Chev Blazer SUV, the tow rating varies between 2000 and 5700 lbs. all with the same engine, frame, and factory towing kit. And the most base version has the higher rating....
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Old 02-01-2015, 08:14 AM   #35
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I solved my towing question. I got a new Chevy Colorado Z71! Now I feel so much safer.
Congrats on finding a new vehicle but a word of caution.

There is a common misunderstanding about TV's which is big and heavy means safer. In some cases there is truth to that but in other cases not.

There is a blurb of a guy who test drove a Mini Van which was set up optimally, towing a dual axle TT. It towed the trailer fine. The guy assumed his full size pick up would do the same. He bought a similar trailer, "failed to connect it properly" and rolled his rig the first time out.

Point being made here is that just because you have a big heavy tow vehicle with a high tow rating don't assume you are safe. Take the necessary steps to cover all your bases.
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I solved my towing question. I got a new Chevy Colorado Z71! Now I feel so much safer.
Very cool - comgrats! Looks like a nice truck. Which engine did you get? Now you have an even bigger decision to make, which trailer? There a lots out there, have fun!

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Old 02-01-2015, 09:24 AM   #37
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Very cool - comgrats! Looks like a nice truck. Which engine did you get? Now you have an even bigger decision to make, which trailer? There a lots out there, have fun!

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I got the 3.6LV6 engine. It also has 4x4 and towing mode and brakes built in. The manual says max trailer weight= 7000lb GCWR 12000. From that, it means no more than a 7000 lb trailer and GCWR is with added vehicle. Right?

I still plan to go small for my first trailer....no more than 3500 lb. I'm still stuck in RPod 179 or the Casita Freedom Deluxe 16. The Casita dealer sent me info on local owners and I will call for an appointment to look at theirs.
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Old 02-01-2015, 09:59 AM   #38
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The manual says max trailer weight= 7000lb GCWR 12000. From that, it means no more than a 7000 lb trailer and GCWR is with added vehicle. Right?
And everything in the trailer and vehicle including people, pets, cargo, full tanks of water, gas, propane, Starbucks, french fries under the seats,
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Old 02-01-2015, 02:32 PM   #39
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The Casita will hold its value far better than the RPod. The Casita will tow easier, give better fuel economy (probably 14-16 mpg vs 11-13 RPod), and has a more sturdy body with far less potential leak points. Also the molded fiberglass cabinetry is much more durable than the stuff they staple together for most stickie trailers. On the other side of the equation, the RPod may cost less and may have a more eye-catching interior (assuming you like wood-look cabinets).

One other factor: do you enjoy meeting people in the campgrounds, or would you rather be ignored? People will come by and chat about your Casita and ask to look inside; with an RPod, you may get one or two curious lookers who wonder about head clearance at the curved ends, but mostly it's seen as just one more travel trailer.
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Curious why you're cross-shopping an Rpod 179 with a Casita 16'...? From what I could see on their respective websites, the Casita 17' is a closer match, size & weight-wise.
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Old 02-01-2015, 07:16 PM   #41
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I think I liked the inside of the RPod because I've been in one.

Your comments about the Casita and holding it's value are dead on. I've been scouring the used ads and they don't go down much. I haven't thought of the 17' Casita. I love the looks of the 16 Freedom Deluxe. Does that extra foot really make a difference?
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I think I liked the inside of the RPod because I've been in one.

Your comments about the Casita and holding it's value are dead on. I've been scouring the used ads and they don't go down much. I haven't thought of the 17' Casita. I love the looks of the 16 Freedom Deluxe. Does that extra foot really make a difference?
It's not just longer, it's also taller,
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