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Old 07-13-2015, 04:27 PM   #15
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Well we are way down here in Orlando Florida USA. Canada is a bit far to drive for a rental!~ <smile>! We are close to a decision anyway; been researching everything over the weekend and will probably return to the dealer for a second look and kick the tires more.

Thanks for the response. Helpful.
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Old 07-14-2015, 11:36 AM   #16
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Congratulations on adopting a vegan lifestyle that has worked for you.

I looked at your web page/blog and wonder how you will store all your gear and food necessities, which now hang over the back of your TV, when you hook up your new trailer. I'm thinking that you might want to sleep in your TV and tow a trailer dedicated to your gear and food necessities. The T@G, while beautifully appointed and very cute, has about as much sleeping room as your tow vehicle (I'm guessing).

We had considered getting a teardrop when we were looking for trailers but ruled them out because we wanted to be able to cook and hang out indoors when weather was inclement and be able to stand while dressing. Most campgrounds have picnic tables where it is easy to set up a simple kitchen. Plus, we enjoy cooking outdoors, under the trees, as opposed to on the asphalt of the parking space. Our bare bones 13' Scamp trailer, without shower or toilet, turned out to be the (almost) perfect fit for us.

This is just my 2 cents worth and know that you will make the right choice for your needs.

P.S. Just one more thing to consider... I don't know if you've camped in bear country yet. In California bear country we are required to put all our food and toiletries (anything that smells attractive to bears) in provided bear-proof containers. This can mean a lot of "schlepping" to stock the container and a lot of "schlepping" to and from the container when cooking. All in all it is worth it because we camp in gloriously beautiful places AND we help bears to forage for natural foods and stay away from people. In Yellowstone NP they did not allow us to keep our camping stove out on the picnic table.
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Old 07-14-2015, 11:45 AM   #17
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One additional thought...If you decide to sleep in your TV you might want to consider a vehicle tent like this one Rightline Gear SUV Tent at Brookstone—Buy Now! to give you more room. Or you could sleep in the tent and have access to the stuff in your vehicle.
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Old 07-14-2015, 12:00 PM   #18
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. (clip) In Yellowstone NP they did not allow us to keep our camping stove out on the picnic table.
Last month we were in Yellowstone and the camper next to us was heard walking around has campsite cursing the "Dammed Hippy Thieves" (his words) that stole his camp stove while they were away for the day.

I went over and showed him a pink "Ticket" that was clipped to his site number post advising him that: a)the ranger had picked up the stove and b) that it was available at the ranger station and c) that a small fine was being added to his camping fee.

Seems that no one in his entire family read the large warning notice that was laminated and attached to the center of every table to not leave anything out, including camp stoves.

BTW: There are campgrounds in Yellowstone where, due to bears, soft sided trailers (pop-up tent trailers) are not allowed.
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:08 PM   #19
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Hi Gilda, lovely to hear from you! You raise some excellent points but may not have tried out looking at the T@G. It has a full queen sized sleeping area and lots of storage under the 'mattress' components. We plan on towing the T@G behind our 2015 Kia Soul so won't have our little hitch/platform we have used in the past with our Smart Car.

Because the T@G has a nice freezer, we can store lots of our frozen foodstuffs there in the 'kitchen'. We plan on putting our electric cooler inside the T@G while moving along with our little 'potty'. The side tent (changing room) can go in the SUV with the Napier 48000 rear tent/screen room.

Since we plan to camp mostly where there will be an electric hookup, we can use both the gas burners (included) as well as our small induction cooktop we have been carrying. Plenty of ways to cook our Plant-Based meals!

The door attached 5 X 7 tent room will be our 'changing area' and potty. Surprisingly there are some pretty nice portable, easy to clean' units available.

Since the T@G has a very nice kitchen in the rear, we can lock away any food with a simple closing of the hatch. Other food will be in the electric cooler at the rear in the Napier Tent.

So far we have avoided California but will no doubt try to visit sometime in the future. Lots of USA to explore that we have yet to cover over the past 2.5 years.

Major Point: We have never done this sort of thing before. This will be all new for us so who knows how it will play out. We have been researching the heck out of this and love the features of the T@G Max for creature comfort that we like.

We haven't bought anything yet, but are getting close.
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:11 PM   #20
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I will have to ask at Yellowstone if our attached side 5 X 7 tent would be allowed with our hard shell T@G. As long as no food is stored there it may be ok. I have no desire to deal with bears except to snap a picture from a distance! <smile>!
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:14 PM   #21
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We are looking at a similar Napier 48000 rear tent to attach to our T@G. See" https://us.napieroutdoors.com/store/.../product_id:4/
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Not to beat a dead horse, but going back to posts 3 to 5, where did the information that you can tow 1600-2000 lbs come from? If it's from a hitch manufacturer, sorry, that doesn't count. All that counts for safety, chassis reliability and comfort is what's in the owners manual.


I have looked at the Soul and I sure wouldn't tow 1600-2000 lbs with such a small vehicle. Remember, towing limits are not set by how everything works when things are going well, but how things react in the worst case scenario.


Your T@G, with a 900 lb dry weight is going to be 1200lbs.+ loaded.


As you mentioned, as this is all new to you, it's not a good idea to force an issue that can lead to bad results.


And, as I said once already this morning. If you have any questions about the wisdom about this issue, bring it up with your insurance agent and your lawyer before letting a mechanic or an advertisement steer you into a bad idea.
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Old 07-14-2015, 02:48 PM   #23
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Good luck with the whole TV issue! I'll watch your blog to pick up hints on how to maintain a vegan lifestyle while on the road. It definitely is a challenge! Your story is inspiring....thanks for sharing it! Happy trails!
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