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Old 09-05-2014, 09:32 PM   #29
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If it were up to me (and it's NOT) I'd say... get EVERYTHING you possibly can. You know how you camped in the PAST, but no one has a crystal ball.. where MAY you be camping five years from now?
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:26 PM   #30
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Most state parks and private CGs have electric hook ups. Why burn propane you have to pay for when electricity is included in the camping fee. I have used electricity to heat water far more than I have used propane, and it's as easy as flipping a switch from inside the trailer.


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Old 09-05-2014, 10:34 PM   #31
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Most state parks and private CGs have electric hook ups. Why burn propane you have to pay for when electricity is included in the camping fee. I have used electricity to heat water far more than I have used propane, and it's as easy as flipping a switch from inside the trailer.


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That's right. There is no way we would buy a trailer without dual electric/gas heater. No bother with propane and no expense.

With children, I would be very wary of space heaters. Would have to watch them every minute. (The children and the heater!)

We have a Maxx fan and it will often cool off the trailer in two minutes and keep us from using the A/C. I expect that the Fantastic fan works similarly well.
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With children, I would be very wary of space heaters. Would have to watch them every minute. (The children and the heater!)

We have a Maxx fan and it will often cool off the trailer in two minutes and keep us from using the A/C. I expect that the Fantastic fan works similarly well.

When it is cool outside, the Fantastic Fan will pull cool air into the trailer if a window is cracked open, providing natural A/C. Fresh air is definitely preferable to cooled, recirculated air......unless fellow campers have campfires and smoky air gets pulled in. I do not find that preferable to conditioned air.

As to space heaters, I have a ceramic heater made by Pelonis. It is maybe 7" x 7" x 10" high. It puts out a lot of heat, turns off if it gets tipped over, and the outer case stays cool to the touch. No danger to children, but if I did have children, I would put it on the counter next to or on top of the stove out of reach. I never found the heat strips in the A/C in my Scamp 19 to be a good heating method. In some cases, did not put out enough heat and took too long to raise the temperature. They worked OK if the outside temperatures were in the upper 50s or above. Maybe others have had different experiences. Last time I used them it was in the lower 40s and my wife woke me up at 2:00 am because her teeth were chattering and she was, as she put it, freezing. That was in the sleeping loft.

And even the safest appliance can malfunction, including a ceramic heater. But around May of 2013, the man who showed me his Scamp 19 (he lives in Weeki Wachee, Fl, and gave me many invaluable suggestions when I was considering the purchase of a Scamp) told me that his heat strips caught on fire during the previous "summer" (2012) when they were in Alaska and would have destroyed the trailer if they had not been sitting at the dinette when it happened. Probably a fluke occurrence, but it gave me a reason to be concerned. Proves Forrest Gump is right. "It Happens!"


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Old 09-06-2014, 07:09 AM   #33
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Wow, Carl, that story is worrisome.
Any additional thoughts on tow vehicle? We are limited to a pickup with the 5th wheel of course, but any thoughts on the best family sized pickup? The Sierra is sufficient but just wondering if there were any others that were roomier on the inside or bigger truck beds, etc. I have heard Rams are more car like on the inside, for example...
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Bessie, if you currently camp, you should load up your family and head to Dillon State Park. All, or part, of the days from Sept. 16 to 21. If you look at the rally section, you will find more information and how to get more. It will give you a lot of ideas, for mods and such.

There are a lot of Casitas, but also other fiberglass units as well. We have a little open house, or should I say houses, on Sat. morning. Gives you a chance to collect ideas. We always welcome people interested in Fiberglass, whether they have one, or are hoping to get one.

Most of use are older, but their are a couple of folks that bring their younger children.
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:14 AM   #35
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Very true. Thanks Jack
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Unless you live full time in your trailer with shore power, it would take many years to recover the initial cost of the electric option on the water heater.
Still, a belt and suspenders can be a comfort!
No worries...
Electrical appliances are generally safe, and while the electric circuit to the water heater , the A/C , or the heat strip could short out, the likelihood is too remote to be concerned beyond normal maintenance and inspection.
We leave the power, water, and gas on at home when we travel even though the chances of a failure are greater than in the camper.
I'll bet there are a thousand car fires for every trailer fire, and most trailer fires are propane refrigerator related anyway. Still I prefer a fridge over an intrinsically safe icebox and a heat strip over a coal stove!

Dust bunnies are combustible, so clean an service your appliances regularly, and be sure that all electrical circuits have proper breakers.
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Unless you live full time in your trailer with shore power, it would take many years to recover the initial cost of the electric option on the water heater.
Still, a belt and suspenders can be a comfort!

Floyd,

It is my understanding that the two way water heater has an automatic ignition system and a switch so that the water heater can be turned on from inside the trailer and the gas only model has to be manually lit.

Is this correct?

If so, maybe the added convenience is more important to some people than the pay back time.


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Floyd,

It is my understanding that the two way water heater has an automatic ignition system and a switch so that the water heater can be turned on from inside the trailer and the gas only model has to be manually lit.

Is this correct?

If so, maybe the added convenience is more important to some people than the pay back time.


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That is true, most of us are willing to pay something for convenience!
Redundancy ain't all bad either.
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Old 09-06-2014, 11:10 AM   #39
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The heat strips in my trailer must be turned on before the trailer gets cold. If I wait until it's cold in the trailer the heat strips will never recover.

I found this the hard way when we were in Bryce Canyon in September of last year. Daytime temps were 70 and nighttime temps in the mid 20s. The first night I turned the heat on at 3 AM and also had to use the propane furnace to get the trailer warm. The second night I turned on the heat strips before going to sleep and the trailer stayed toasty all night. The heat strips are wonderful but they have limitations.
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As to space heaters, I have a ceramic heater made by Pelonis. It is maybe 7" x 7" x 10" high. It puts out a lot of heat, turns off if it gets tipped over, and the outer case stays cool to the touch. No danger to children, but if I did have children, I would put it on the counter next to or on top of the stove out of reach. I never found the heat strips in the A/C in my Scamp 19 to be a good heating method. In some cases, did not put out enough heat and took too long to raise the temperature. They worked OK if the outside temperatures were in the upper 50s or above. Maybe others have had different experiences. Last time I used them it was in the lower 40s and my wife woke me up at 2:00 am because her teeth were chattering and she was, as she put it, freezing. That was in the sleeping loft.


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That is an odd report since the fan in the A/C moves far more air than the Pelonis , And the heat strip is of the same or greater wattage than the Pelonis. Our heat strip will toast us out of our 13 at temps far below freezing.
Even though heat should rise to the loft, I have heard reports of the loft being hard to heat or cool... Some say its due to the underside of the loft being exposed and elevated. some have even installed a fan to force air into the loft.
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Old 09-06-2014, 06:17 PM   #41
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The underside of the Scamp loft is just like the main floor. Wood. I'd insulate the underside, if I owned a Scamp 5er. The mattress just sits right on that wood and I chill easily. YMMV
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That is an odd report since the fan in the A/C moves far more air than the Pelonis , And the heat strip is of the same or greater wattage than the Pelonis. Our heat strip will toast us out of our 13 at temps far below freezing.
Even though heat should rise to the loft, I have heard reports of the loft being hard to heat or cool... Some say its due to the underside of the loft being exposed and elevated. some have even installed a fan to force air into the loft.

I would agree with the loft assessment. In the deluxe model with the staircase, sometimes the A/C has a difficult time pushing cold or hot air into the loft. Sometimes have to crack the fantastic fan and run on low to "suck" air up to loft. And the night my wife was "freezing" it was cold coming up through the cushions, which sit directly on the floor of the loft. In the 13 and the 16, the bed is "insulated" from the floor by the dinette bench compartments. The Pelonis simply puts out far more heat than the heat strips, or seems to and the air coming out of it is noticeably warmer. Perhaps the heat strips keep a 13 footer toasty warm, but in my experience they are marginal in the 19. And in the 13 and 16 footer the A/C fan blows directly into the living space/sleeping area.


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