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Old 08-13-2015, 10:07 PM   #15
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Well Guys, tell us what happened.....
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:35 PM   #16
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Apparently the gentleman selling the Scamp was the 3rd owner but not really. The papers were still in the original buyer and owners name : somebody from Tennessee. Alarm bells went off with that disclosure. We passed on what was in other words a good deal.
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:04 PM   #17
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Make sure the trailer is titled and registered by the person selling it. Anything other than that opens up a big can of worms that you may or may not be able to resolve.

In some states the title transfer has to be notarized. Can't get it notarized if the person selling it isn't on title. Read the title papers very carefully. Never trust a person that the new title will be mailed to you. Once they have the money there is no incentive for them to drop their life and deal with your new found problems. A trailer with paper problems are not bargains and you will wish you never got involved if things go badly. A bill of sale may make it your property just doesn't mean you can ever get it legally on the road. Some localities are easier to deal with issues and some are impossible. You won't know until your knee deep in it.

I have auto club when I can, I meet the seller there to make the transfer. Then its all done in one visit. title transferred, registration done and security cameras everywhere. Handing over 5-10 thousand dollars makes me feel much better inside Auto Club than a super market parking lot or an alley someplace.

Its also better for the seller too since the transfer is complete they no longer have liability running down the back roads someplace. I haven't always gotten sellers to corporate with this but most responsible people will do it.
I see you are in California, things are a lot different here in the U.S.
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:32 PM   #18
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I don't have a lot of trust any more. If the title is with the unite and the tags are up to date. Should be ok. If your not sure, make the deal contingent upon doing the transfer at the motor vehicle department. If there trying to rip you off that won't do it.


Sent from Brad, new scamp owner. 2014
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Old 08-14-2015, 05:27 AM   #19
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One more thing...

I see you'all live in the US...I live in Tennessee.

A national news program did an expose on a certain county in TN through which interstate 40 runs. Seems when the deputies pull people over for a traffic/moving violation, some folks will mention that they have large sums of cash on hand. Said cash is confiscated under the ruse of it most likely being related to illegal activity. Sums ranged from several hundred dollars to $30,000.00 in one case. None of it had been returned. Even after national attention was focused on the problem, the activity still continues.

I am not trying to cast dispersion's on law enforcement. My point being that having a lot of cash on your person is not a good idea.

Be safe. Don't carry large sums of money. Do the deal in a bank.
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:45 AM   #20
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If I withdraw a large sum of money from my bank for a trip, or whatever. I carry it in a bank envelope *WITH* the bank printed withdrawel receipt. Pretty easy to prove where it came from.

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Old 08-14-2015, 09:36 AM   #21
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I see you are in California, things are a lot different here in the U.S.
At least Californians have pride in their state..... IllAnnoy?
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Old 08-14-2015, 10:11 AM   #22
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At least in California with bad paper you can get a title bond on on the trailer or vehicle. Its not easy but can be done. Try getting bad paperwork through in Philadelphia. Title, registration rules are different everywhere. Be aware of what your stepping into. Clean paperwork goes through everywhere but bad paperwork can run the gambit between very easy and impossible. Your the one plopping your money down, maybe You can afford to side line allot of cash and take the risk. Why disparaging California has anything to do with the rest of the US is beyond me. I am no martyr for California but as disgusting as we may be we carry and pay more than our fair share of the issues in your side of the US.
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Old 08-14-2015, 10:26 AM   #23
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A title bond usually won't be issued in the event of "Bad Paper". For about 5% of value a bonding company isn't going to take any more risk that you or I might take. A Title Bond is usually used to cover misplaced or lost paperwork. It adds some cushion, but I would doubt if a bond would be issued in CA on a 3rd party seller with a hot title from TN.


Out of state, 3rd party, titles are just bad news unless you have a personal connection with the seller. They are breaking the law in the first place, so why would they have to be honest with the buyer?


Here's some background on title bonding in the Golden State:
How to Get a Bonded Title in California | eHow
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Old 08-14-2015, 10:35 AM   #24
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I am not in the U.S. I live in the wild wild west. I have registered a trailer with a hand written receipt. Some registries are more picky then others.

Technically, it would be easy to steal a trailer, then get it registered in your name, but I am guessing that has not been a big problem yet. Though my neighbour, who used to run a trucking company, had a transport trailer, that he built, stolen. He recognised it in a parking lot and called the police. It was registered to the "owner" under a different serial number, after he ground off the one on the trailer. But my neighbour had stamped his serial number in a number of places on the trailer, for exactly this circumstance.

He now builds small dump trucks, and trailers, for fun, I think, in his back yard. BTW, best neighbour ever!
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Old 08-14-2015, 11:07 AM   #25
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At least Californians have pride in their state..... IllAnnoy?
True that! God made California a paradise.
Then there's men,
Perhaps Shell Silerstein may have said it best...

Smart
My dad gave me one dollar bill
‘Cause I’m his smartest son,
And I swapped it for two shiny quarters
‘Cause two is more than one!
And then I took the quarters
And traded them to Lou
For three dimes—I guess he don’t know
That three is more than two!
Just then, along came old blind Bates
And just ‘cause he can’t see
He gave me four nickels for my three dimes,
And four is more than three!
And I took the nickels to Hiram Coombs
Down at the seed-feed store,
And the fool gave me five pennies for them,
And five is more than four!
And then I went and showed my dad,
And he got red in the cheeks
And closed his eyes and shook his head---
Too proud of me to speak!
--- Shel Silverstein
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Old 08-14-2015, 04:53 PM   #26
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It would be appreciated, Barry, if you could share with us the ownership issue you encountered, so we can learn?
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It would be appreciated, Barry, if you could share with us the ownership issue you encountered, so we can learn?
The gentleman selling the trailer was not the owner according to the paper work. He was supposedly the third owner but the ownership papers were still in the name of the original owner and buyer of the trailer, a person from Tennessee.
So it would be difficult to purchase the trailer and explain why the ownership was in the name of an American citizen and not a Canadian, meanwhile the trailer had Canadian plates.
So if we had bought the trailer, it would be up to us to explain all this and who knows what kind of issues would arise, while the seller would no longer be liable for any of the mess.
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Old 08-15-2015, 12:29 PM   #28
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If I withdraw a large sum of money from my bank for a trip, or whatever. I carry it in a bank envelope *WITH* the bank printed withdrawel receipt. Pretty easy to prove where it came from.

Mon
Wow! and some of us worry about thieves at the other end of the sale?? Yet we have to fear the lack of due process?
Another bad thing about cash... if you sell for a large sum of cash and deposit it, it will be reported as a suspicious transaction.
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