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Old 09-17-2014, 07:27 AM   #15
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Scamp: Goose neck of fifth wheel?

In terms of the geometry and dynamics, it is exactly like a fifth wheel, and tows well, just like it.

In terms of the connecting mechanism, it is a little like a goose neck, but the ball is not low in the bed, it is raised about 12 inches, on a bracket.

You need the proper setup to tow it, which could be an advantage (no joker with a 2" ball bumper hitch can hook up and steal it), or disadvantage, if it needs to be towed by a rescue truck.

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Old 09-17-2014, 09:21 AM   #16
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We had a 19' Scamp deluxe and towed it with a Nissan Frontier crew cab short bed (5'). We needed to position the hitch about 8 inches behind the axle and had no problem. We are currently doing the same thing for towing our Escape 5.0 Classic.

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Old 09-18-2014, 05:50 AM   #17
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Ideally, it should be 2-6" ahead of the rear axle.

That being said, I have a 6.5' bed and had still had to lengthen the trailer hitch to be able to turn 90* with the fifth wheel hitch properly mounted in the truck, and not hit the cab. There are slider hitches available for fifth wheels, but I didn't want to use one.

My hitch is 3" ahead of the rear axle, I believe.

The other big benefit of lengthening the trailer hitch is that I can open and close the tailgate while hitched up now.

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Old 09-18-2014, 08:55 AM   #18
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Ideally one would want to mount it over the axle so as not to take weight off the front axle and impact handling. However, with these lightweight 5th wheels there is a little more leeway...we're talking about a 600-700 pin weight...not like the big rigs. with pin weights in the several thousand pounds. The Frontier's front end is heavier and our model has heavy duty shocks. It handles fine with the hitch mounted behind the axle (it's actually about in the middle of the bed that way.).
Photos of our B&W Patriot hitch for our Escape and also the standard Scamp hitch from when we had a Scamp 19.
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