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Old 02-07-2014, 11:15 AM   #29
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Unless you purchase an old Trillium, or other vintage trailer, which has a gravity furnace that uses no power. Doesn't make a lot of heat though.
We've found that both our gravity furnaces pump out enough heat for us. Typically the pilot light takes the edge off on cool nights, cranking it up to # 2 or so on the dial will handle a freeze outside. Only had them up to # 10 or max to test.
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:09 PM   #30
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My test was done at -13°C, (8.6°F). I was too cold to sleep, unless I used an electric heater as well.
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:42 PM   #31
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Dems the nights you let the dogs up onto the bed, under the comforter.
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Old 02-10-2014, 01:11 PM   #32
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Thanks for all the comments. Re. propane, the bottom line is I figure when buying a used trailer if it comes with propane then that is great. If the model only comes setup for electrical, then it would probably not be a deal killer since FG trailers are so hard to find anyway. Buying new is a different matter since you can get what you want.
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Old 02-19-2014, 06:49 AM   #33
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Having a trailer that isn't set up for propane, doesn't mean you can't use propane. It just means you do your cooking outdoors with a portable camp stove. That's basically what I always do anyway. Although for the last few years, we've gone to mostly bringing things that are grilled - and we use charcoal for that. You don't get the built-in furnace, but there's catalytic heaters which can fill that gap when needed.

To me, the bigger issue is water. Many of the older fiberglass trailers will have had their water systems either removed or busted. Recent model and they're probably fine though. I've done the tent camper version of things (tote water, wash dishes in bins), but I've really come to like doing the cleanup inside the trailer now.
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:33 AM   #34
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Sorry to be late to this conversation. Our UHaul came to us with the water tank removed, so I now use an external tank for those trips where we won't have city water hook-ups. I have a 12 gallon tank that sits on a small fold-up pull cart. When we get to a site without a faucet, I pull the tank over to a common faucet (bathhouse, single pipe along the road, etc.) and fill it. Then I pull it back, position it by the inlet side of the trailer, and hook it to an external water pump that I have mounted on a piece of wood. The pump is then hooked to the city water inlet and plugged into a power outlet. Once pressurized ( a couple seconds), the pump only runs when there is a faucet open in the trailer or when the small water heater needs to refill. I cover the pump with a plastic tub to keep rain and dirt off it, cover the water tank with a silver tarp, and enjoy having water! We have found that this lasts for 2-3 days before we need to refill the tank. When traveling, I just disassemble it and it travels on the trailer floor. Very quick and easy to set up and use.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:03 AM   #35
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I spent a lot of time on research before I found our 2004 19' Scamp Deluxe, and was lucky enough to get it. The 5th wheel setup is really great for towing, last September we drove from VT to CO in terrible head and cross winds and pouring rain and the setup was perfectly stable and comfortable to drive. The only effect of the head wind was slightly lower gas mileage, from normal of about 16-17mpg. Having two sleeping areas, the loft and the converted seats comes handy if one person tends to get up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom. As pointed out already, the FG campers do not have separate showers, but think of it this way: you can shower yourself and clean the potty at the same time! (The Deluxe has the decent size bathroom.) Re. propane: you can't beat gas for convenience and efficiency, it is a more direct conversion of energy than electricity, by far. Our fridge is gas or 120V AC, I wish it were 12V also, so it would cool while traveling. We tend to do some 12 hour days on the road occasionally, and keep frozen water in soda bottles in the fridge to keep it cool. (The gas tanks must be turned off while traveling in all, I think, of US and Canada.) So if you can be persuaded to get a mid size truck, look at this option. GM, for example, reintroduced a mid size truck after Toyota ate their lunch with the Tacoma.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:35 AM   #36
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Must put in a quibble. We have a Bigfoot 21ft with separate shower stall and double bed. Although it is not large we use it regularly. Tows easily and the two of us spent our winters in the Rio Grande Valley, southern Texas very comfortably and economically. You are right though, good FB rigs seem to get snapped up fast. We bought ours used and travelled 4000kms to pick it up.
Whatever you choose best of luck. Seems like you are on the right track.
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Old 02-19-2014, 01:18 PM   #37
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Our fridge is gas or 120V AC, I wish it were 12V also, so it would cool while traveling. We tend to do some 12 hour days on the road occasionally, and keep frozen water in soda bottles in the fridge to keep it cool.
(The gas tanks must be turned off while traveling in all, I think, of US and Canada.)
Except for a few very specific circumstances, I've heard of no law in either Country that requires propane tanks to be turned off when traveling. Travel aboard ferries is one such exception- all flames must be extinguished and gas turned off at the tank.

My fridge is three-way, but I never use 12v. I run it on propane all the time including when under way, as do many if not most RVers. That's one reason that gas/electric RV fridges no longer come with the 12v option- people just didn't/don't use the 12v. I do extinguish the flame before stopping at gas stations, of course.
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Except for a few very specific circumstances, I've heard of no law in either Country that requires propane tanks to be turned off when traveling. Travel aboard ferries is one such exception- all flames must be extinguished and gas turned off at the tank.
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I am also only aware of the requirement to shut off the tanks on the ferry. But I do know when the topic of whether or not people travel with their fridge on or off propane here it often seems to be a split decision. A number of folks such as myself don't travel with the fridge running on propane as there is the risk of having a accident with the propane tank running which could go badly depending on what happens to the tanks. Also some of us have experenced the flame going out while traveling. Being a pee brain its a good bet I would forget to shut the tank off before pulling into a gas station. As a result I simple use a couple of freezer packs in the fridge beside items that need to be kept very cold - such as milk and meats and don't open the fridge while traveling. Has worked fairly well even on trips of more than just a couple of hours & in warm weather. Of course it will only work for you if you have a freezer compartment to freeze the packs for reuse.
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As well as ferries, many tunnels require they be turned off.

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... Also some of us have experenced the flame going out while traveling. Being a pee brain its a good bet I would forget to shut the tank off before pulling into a gas station. As a result I simple use a couple of freezer packs in the fridge beside items that need to be kept very cold - such as milk and meats and don't open the fridge while traveling. Has worked fairly well even on trips of more than just a couple of hours & in warm weather. Of course it will only work for you if you have a freezer compartment to freeze the packs for reuse.
Well, you learn something every day. I did some googling on the subject of LP gas and driving. Originally I thought the owner's manual recommendation was based on a legal requirement. I am encouraged that some of this stuff is pretty much left to our discretion, common sense and individual choice! The possibility of the fridge flame going out in the 70+MPH wind was on my mind also. Our freezer compartment inside the fridge being filled with ice (in bottles) keeps it all cold for a long time, so I'll keep turning the LP tanks off. Making one stop before pumping gasoline and another after, seems silly. Same for the tunnels. Getting on and off a ferry is different, you have time to do it. Turning the fridge off, and back on, right at the gasoline pump island is surely increasing the risk of an "event", in my opinion.
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:58 PM   #41
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I actually contacted all the Provincial and Territorial Departments of Transport across Canada to ask about travelling with the propane on. Every last one said it was no problem to have it on while driving, other than at places that specifically post to turn it off, like ferries and some tunnels.
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Old 02-20-2014, 09:41 AM   #42
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Sooo... Running on LP is mostly legal except for certain points which may make it legal, but kind of a PITA.

With our big trailer I run the fridge on 12V while traveling and switch to shorepower once we set up. Prior to that (older trailer didn't have a battery) I did the frozen bottle thing. Worked fine for up to 6 hours or so as long as a pre-cooled the fridge at home and loaded it full of already cold stuff. Depending on the timing of your menu - some other items can be frozen too. My wife and I used to freeze Cornish Game Hens and then take them backpacking in just a small (flexable, not very good) cooler. By the time they thawed out we'd be ready to grill them.
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