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Old 06-16-2015, 12:46 PM   #1
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Buying a Scamp in about a year (fingers crossed)

Hello! Long time lurker on these forums, finally getting ready to purchase (hopefully).

I'm in the investigative stage of buying a new Scamp 16ft. If my finances work out, hopefully within the next year or so.

I've been reviewing Scamps 2014 Catalog (when do they update their catalog? it's 6 months into 2015) and I have a couple of questions I hope someone can help me with.

1) What is the "splash guard" that's listed as an option?

2) And does anyone have the height measurement from the bottom of the tire to the tippy-top of the roof mounted AC unit on a 16ft model? I have a pole barn I'd like to park it under.

Here are the two options I'm thinking of having priced out when I contact Scamp.

16ft Deluxe, Layout B (Wood cabinetry)

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included options
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Shower & Toilet
City water
4.6 cubic foot refrigerator
Gravel Shield
Electric brakes
Screen door
Small window over range
Rear cabinet
Side cabinets
Cabinet over sink
Silverware drawer
Gas hot water heater
Battery pack
12 volt water pump
Sink in bathroom
Grey water tank

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additional options
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Three speed roof fan
Roof air conditioner
Furnace (16,000 BTU)
10 ft awning
TV antenna
Cable TV hook up
Dual gas tanks
Outside step
2” reciever for bike racks
Exterior ground fault outlet
Stove cover
Mircowave oven
Wheel on jack
Gas & electric water heater (upgrade)
Group 27 battery pack (upgrade)
Vinyl floor
Heat strip for roof air
12 volt plug
Front porch light

_+_+_+_+_+_

16ft Standard, Layout 6 (fiberglass cabinetry)

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included options
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Shower & Toilet
City water
1.9 cubic foot refrigerator
Battery pack
Gravel Shield
Electric brakes
Screen door
Small window over range
Side cabinets
Cabinet over sink
Silverware drawer
Gas hot water heater
Battery pack
12 volt water pump
Grey water tank

-=-=-=-
additional options
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Three speed roof fan
Roof air conditioner
4.6 cubic foot refrigerator (upgrade)
Furnace (16,000 BTU)
10 ft awning
TV antenna
Cable TV hook up
Dual gas tanks
Outside step
2” reciever for bike racks
Exterior Ground fault outlet
Stove cover
Mircowave oven
Wheel on jack
Gas & electric water heater (upgrade)
Group 27 battery pack (upgrade)
Vinyl floor
Heat strip for roof air
12 volt plug
Front porch light
-=-=-=-

Thanks so much for your time,
regards,
CSelf
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Old 06-16-2015, 01:36 PM   #2
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While I am only half way through my six month wait for my Scamp to be built.. I have given the options a lot of thought so I will give you my humble opinions, keeping in mind that its based on MY needs and relies more on research than experience (although I am not new to pop-up campers at least).

1. For me, the delux wood looks nice but offers no other benefit that I know of. It does weigh more.
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additional options
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Three speed roof fan- YES although some people even upgrade it and/or add the MaxxAir cover: Airxcel | Maxxair |

Roof air conditioner - YES, I hate the weight and expense.. but its the lessor of three or more evils if need AC (and I DO!)

4.6 cubic foot refrigerator (upgrade) - YES, it does not run on 12 volts but few people use the RV fridge on 12 volts. And this upsize unit is supposed to keep cold longer when shut off.

Furnace (16,000 BTU)-NO, furnace takes a good amount of electric power for the fan so it will run down your battery if boondocking. If you're not boondocking and have shore power, then a $20-24 ceramic heater is plenty. If boondocking, a Olympic Wave (maybe the 3 model) should be enough heat and it uses NO electric, only propane, and is efficient. Some prefer the forced air heat of the furnace but you pay for that comfort. Item

10 ft awning-NO for me but YMMV.. I think they are a lot of trouble. They have to come down for any strong wind, etc.. but the shade can be very helpful in keeping cool. I had one on my pop-up and never used it. I'm going to try a very light weight screened room for people, and/or a solar tarp over the rig when its a hot sunny day. We'll see how it works. Robot Check

TV antenna-NO. I don't really know anything about the one that Scamp sells but I think there are likely better aftermarket ones around such as Winegard: RV Antenna - VHF UHF Winegard Sensar Antennas

Dual gas tanks-MAYBE- I got the single because I think I will need to limit tongue weight, and I don't plan to use that much propane. But if your style of trailer use calls for it, then sure.

Outside step-YES

2” receiver for bike racks_YES for me but NO for you; ) MANY reports state that using the rear receiver for bikes or gear lightens the tongue weight too much. The only reason I am keeping it on my order is that I plan to use it as an antenna mount ONLY when parked. Scamp told me the weight limit was 300 lbs but there is no way you can add that much, so far rear of the axle, without really messing up the tongue weight.

Exterior Ground fault outlet-YES.. handy

Stove cover-MAYBE- I thought I could build one.

Mircowave oven- NO.. Scamp will prep it for you if you ask (include the outlet and i think a bracket).. then you go to Wally World and buy one cheaper.

Wheel on jack-NO. Never used it on my pop-up, although I do have a trailer dolly I used a few times to move the trailer. If you later decide you need the wheel you can get it form Scamp or other places.

Gas & electric water heater (upgrade)-??- I stayed with just gas.. I would be interested to hear from those who own the electric and gas version.

Group 27 battery pack (upgrade)-NO. I plan to save the money and use the grp 24 for a while, then get a bigger gel cell type if I can afford the extra tongue weight. (Again I want to keep it light on the tongue at first because of the tug I have, YMMV)

Vinyl floor- YES- I have a dog, carpet will never stay clean.

Heat strip for roof air-NO.. it adds very little heat and the AC fan is loud. If you decide you want it, its a fairly simple DIY (I added it to the AC in my pop-up and then never used it).

12 volt plug-NO for me because I plan to add it myself along with USB outles.

Front porch light-YES
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Old 06-16-2015, 01:55 PM   #3
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1) What is the "splash guard" that's listed as an option?

2) And does anyone have the height measurement from the bottom of the tire to the tippy-top of the roof mounted AC unit on a 16ft model? I have a pole barn I'd like to park it under.

Well after you have been here a while longer you will learn that Scamp does no make changes fast so when they decide to update the catalogue to 2015 is anyones guess. Its only been a few years since they even had a catalogue or parts store on line. ;-)

I suggest you give them a ring on their 1-800 number and ask both the questions you have. Way better to get the answer directly from them.
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Old 06-17-2015, 09:54 AM   #4
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Hello! Long time lurker on these forums, finally getting ready to purchase (hopefully).

I'm in the investigative stage of buying a new Scamp 16ft. If my finances work out, hopefully within the next year or so.

I've been reviewing Scamps 2014 Catalog (when do they update their catalog? it's 6 months into 2015) and I have a couple of questions I hope someone can help me with.

1) What is the "splash guard" that's listed as an option?

2) And does anyone have the height measurement from the bottom of the tire to the tippy-top of the roof mounted AC unit on a 16ft model? I have a pole barn I'd like to park it under.

Here are the two options I'm thinking of having priced out when I contact Scamp.

16ft Deluxe, Layout B (Wood cabinetry)

-=-=-=-
included options
-=-=-=-

Shower & Toilet
City water
4.6 cubic foot refrigerator
Gravel Shield
Electric brakes
Screen door
Small window over range
Rear cabinet
Side cabinets
Cabinet over sink
Silverware drawer
Gas hot water heater
Battery pack
12 volt water pump
Sink in bathroom
Grey water tank

-=-=-=-
additional options
-=-=-=-

Three speed roof fan
Roof air conditioner
Furnace (16,000 BTU)
10 ft awning
TV antenna
Cable TV hook up
Dual gas tanks
Outside step
2 reciever for bike racks
Exterior ground fault outlet
Stove cover
Mircowave oven
Wheel on jack
Gas & electric water heater (upgrade)
Group 27 battery pack (upgrade)
Vinyl floor
Heat strip for roof air
12 volt plug
Front porch light

_+_+_+_+_+_

16ft Standard, Layout 6 (fiberglass cabinetry)

-=-=-=-
included options
-=-=-=-

Shower & Toilet
City water
1.9 cubic foot refrigerator
Battery pack
Gravel Shield
Electric brakes
Screen door
Small window over range
Side cabinets
Cabinet over sink
Silverware drawer
Gas hot water heater
Battery pack
12 volt water pump
Grey water tank

-=-=-=-
additional options
-=-=-=-

Three speed roof fan
Roof air conditioner
4.6 cubic foot refrigerator (upgrade)
Furnace (16,000 BTU)
10 ft awning
TV antenna
Cable TV hook up
Dual gas tanks
Outside step
2 reciever for bike racks
Exterior Ground fault outlet
Stove cover
Mircowave oven
Wheel on jack
Gas & electric water heater (upgrade)
Group 27 battery pack (upgrade)
Vinyl floor
Heat strip for roof air
12 volt plug
Front porch light
-=-=-=-

Thanks so much for your time,
regards,
CSelf
Seems you have a deluxe Scamp coming to you. We purchased ours second hand and have many of these options. The bike rack feature is a must, wish we had it. Many of your listed items are standard, and not options. We have a 2008 Scamp, side dinette, potty/shower, stove, AC, heater, porch light, external AC outlet, and I replaced all my bulbs inside with LED bulbs. Some day Scamp will get updated and put these in from the factory. Hope you get your Scamp as you listed it here, and if so, its going to be one hell of a Scamp!
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Old 06-17-2015, 09:59 AM   #5
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They mount the water tank on the wood floor. Members here report condensation soaking the wood. I would request the tank mounted on top of some vinyl flooring. If you go deluxe, you are on par with Escape 17 foot price point. Didn't know if you looked at those or not.
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Old 06-17-2015, 11:10 AM   #6
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Consider camping style.

When purchasing a new Scamp and associated options there's no one or one set of options.
If you have camped before think about what you need, not necessarily what you want, first. Carefully consider each option for value to you vs cost in weight, dollars, and usage. Then move on to the wants and do the same thing. Many people get carried away with wants.

Example... I'll only be camping in RV Resorts with hookups. Or I'll be mostly boondocking and hookups are not needed. Watch out for opinionated opinions like you don't want a furnace they use up battery power. I'll call BS on that one. If you're connected to 120 AC the converter keeps the battery up. If you're boondocking there's other ways to conserve the battery and a ceramic electric heater won't work, or if tried will use up a lot more battery.

One of the best ways to conserve power is LED lights.
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Old 06-17-2015, 11:13 AM   #7
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They mount the water tank on the wood floor. Members here report condensation soaking the wood. I would request the tank mounted on top of some vinyl flooring. If you go deluxe, you are on par with Escape 17 foot price point. Didn't know if you looked at those or not.
That's not true! I have a 2008 Scamp and NEVER have had condensation water problems with my water tank, NEVER
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Old 06-17-2015, 11:17 AM   #8
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They mount the water tank on the wood floor. Members here report condensation soaking the wood. I would request the tank mounted on top of some vinyl flooring. If you go deluxe, you are on par with Escape 17 foot price point. Didn't know if you looked at those or not.
Hi Ken,

I have a hot water heater in my scamp. Was just curious. Even with the styrofoam cover on the outside of the unit, folks find it condensates? I have just a wood floor (carpet in my scamp) and haven't noticed anything unusual. Further thoughts?

Thanks,
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Members reported the fresh water tank not hot water heater. Pretty poor design planning on Scamps part. Just search the archives to read more. Cheers.
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Old 06-17-2015, 11:44 AM   #10
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... Watch out for opinionated opinions ...

opinionated opinions? Are there other kinds?

Besides.. I thought the OP asked for opinions. Offering opinions based on experience with the associated rational should assist the OP with making the decisions right for their situation.

As for running furnace while on shore power, yes of course the battery will not be run down. But if you're already on shore power, then why use your propane at all.. save it for later and use the electric you are already paying for. And if you are not on shore power and using the furnace much, it will shorten the amount of time you can be off grid due to the battery drain, whereas a Propane only catalytic heater will not (and will use less propane to boot!)

But (like i said before) some people prefer the forced air heat of the furance.

Anyway, that's my opinionated two cents worth. Watch out for it!
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Old 06-17-2015, 01:17 PM   #11
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That's not true! I have a 2008 Scamp and NEVER have had condensation water problems with my water tank, NEVER
Lucky you. Maybe it's where you camp or the time of the year. But, there are plenty of threads and horror stories where folks have had to replace the floor under the freshwater tank because of condensation issues.
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They mount the water tank on the wood floor. Members here report condensation soaking the wood. I would request the tank mounted on top of some vinyl flooring. If you go deluxe, you are on par with Escape 17 foot price point. Didn't know if you looked at those or not.


While on the other hand I have a 23 year old Scamp with the tank mounted on the floor and have never had any condensation issues with it. Floor is just fine - looks the same as it did new and I use the water tank a lot. When I redid the straps on it a few years ago and moved the tank out of the way it looked brand new under there. Only Scamps I have ever seen with a floor issue have been due a leak being left not fixed for extended time.

Agree though the Escape 17 would indeed be a trailer the OP should take a serious look at.
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Hi Ken,

I have a hot water heater in my scamp. Was just curious. Even with the styrofoam cover on the outside of the unit, folks find it condensates? I have just a wood floor (carpet in my scamp) and haven't noticed anything unusual. Further thoughts?

Thanks,
Wendy
Why would you want to heat HOT water???? I call it a "water heater"

Condensation should not be an issue for the fresh water tank; altho if you fill it with very cold water and are in a high humidity place you may get some.
Once the water warms to ambient temp it is fine. But, the plumbing around the tank COULD spring a leak. AND, if you travel over a lot of rough roads, the tank may come loose of its tiedown strap. A few of us have added heavy hold down lumber above the tank to keep it in place.
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Old 06-17-2015, 05:32 PM   #14
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Scamp does not change their designs every year so you are good with the 2014 catalog. Since you are in Georgia, have you looked a CASITAs. They are at Rice TX, just S.E. of Dallas. They have some features better than SCAMPs
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