Fiberglass RV Pricing - Holding Value vs. Usage Depreciation - Page 3 - Fiberglass RV


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 08-05-2009, 07:47 PM   #29
Senior Member
 
Donna D.'s Avatar
 
Name: Donna D
Trailer: Escape 5.0 TA, 2014
Oregon
Posts: 24,433
Oftentimes the recreational vehicle, in this case a molded lightweight fiberglass towable, is the third in line as an investment. Home first, tug second, then the trailer. And while the tug and trailer may depreciate in value, most wish to purchase replacements or use the funds from a sale for another purpose... such as paying for a college education for children or perhaps even medical bills.

In my mind, charity begins at home. If I were to choose to give my trailer away, I'd start by asking all the members of my family.. then move to friends... then to a charity that is recognized as such. But, there's little to no chance I'd just give it to someone who may turn around and flip it for a profit, which in that case would be 100% as there would be no initial investment.
__________________

__________________
Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
Donna D. is offline  
Old 08-05-2009, 08:49 PM   #30
Member
 
Trailer: Escape
Maine
Posts: 33
Or, who's going to be the judge of who appreciates your trailer enough when you are "giving" it away? What if one person said they "liked your trailer a lot" and another said they "loved" it. Does the "loved" person get it because they "obviously" appreciate it more?
__________________

__________________
nathanj04011 is offline  
Old 08-05-2009, 09:07 PM   #31
Senior Member
 
Trailer: 2013 Escape 19
Posts: 362
When we sold our Little Guy teardrop after buying our Scamp, I dealt with a guy in Canada; a fireman. I priced the teardrop based on what I thought we had invested. He was buying it for his folks, and agreed on my price. We settled on a meeting place in northern Ohio. About the time we were heading out to meet him, I started gathering up receipts and realized I hadn't paid quite as much for it as I thought, and my mods hadn't amounted to as great a dollar amount as I had estimated. So my wife and I decided to lower the price by $500. We really wanted to be fair to the new owner(s). You can imagine how surprized the guy and his dad were when I told them. The son happily accepted. Next thing I knew, his dad pulled out $200 cash to give to me. So we ended up with an inverse negotiation! In the end, everyone headed home feeling good about the whole transaction. That really meant more to us than the few dollars involved.

Parker
__________________
Parker Buckley is offline  
Old 08-05-2009, 09:11 PM   #32
Senior Member
 
Greg A's Avatar
 
Name: Greg
Trailer: 2015 Escape 19
Arizona
Posts: 1,828
There are way too many "flippers" involved in molded fiberglass trailers. I can list several known ones right off the top of my head in various parts of the country.

Rest assured if you don't price your trailer correctly as a seller and end up on the very low side, or took Mitchell's theme and gave all or some of it away, the one who will take your missed profit will be the flippers. These folks move quick, usually within hours they've secured the bargain trailers and they are normally back on the market within days. We've had several examples over the last year of these folks at work that we caught and followed their progress on reselling through threads.

The biggest problem with the preponderance of flippers in our market, is that they are very sophisticated searchers and it is very difficult for the normal fiberglass trailer purchaser to beat them to the real deals. That is probably the most unfortunate part of the "dark side" of buying and selling fiberglass trailers.
__________________
Owner:
Fiberglass-RV-4Sale.com
Scamp Owners International
2015 Escape 19 & 1997 Scamp 19
Greg A is offline  
Old 08-05-2009, 09:28 PM   #33
Moderator
 
Frederick L. Simson's Avatar
 
Name: Frederick
Trailer: Fiber Stream
California
Posts: 8,151
Registry
Send a message via AIM to Frederick L. Simson
Lightbulb

Quote:
I have to ask those, [b]how do you identify yourself from the perspective of being a member of the community of fiberglass 'rvers' that frequent this site and possibly participate in the get-togethers?
Interesting question. I hope my rambling non-answer will be understandable in some way.

As a metaphor; I tend to identify myself as a "Fixture" here, like [b]Norm! on his barstool in "Cheers." There are some experiences in trailering (as in life) that have to be lived. You can do your "research", but it is rare to strike gold from the first Craigslist ad. It took me 2 trailers to realize my gold, and I have had some "friends" try to point out to me that it's fools gold. I don't hold that against them.

As a "Fixture" I recognise that I have responsibility... something I see rarely displayed in general. "[b]Be the change that you want to see in the world" is something I try to practice.

More specific to your observations, I had been directly advised to "shill". I won't say by whom or over what transaction... It happened a long time ago, and I learned from that experience... as I hope others will learn.

I have a trailer that I really, really like. It's fa-a-a-ar from perfect. Just like me.
__________________
Frederick - The Scaleman
1978 Fiber Stream 16 named "Eggstasy" & 1971 Compact Jr. named "Boomerang"
Frederick L. Simson is offline  
Old 08-06-2009, 01:31 AM   #34
Senior Member
 
Robin G's Avatar
 
Trailer: 2007 Casita
Posts: 3,440
I agree with Greg about the flippers, But have to say some flippers are honest just like some car sales people....................... (did I just say that?) But in my opinion I think forums like this, help people to get prepared to buy. But when you have a yearning that you can't fullfill all logic get's thrown out the window and people do tend to pay the price. Kinda like having the munchie's for something and when you finally find out what your hungry for, instead of eating just one, you eat the whole bag.
__________________
Robin G is offline  
Old 08-06-2009, 01:39 AM   #35
Senior Member
 
Robin G's Avatar
 
Trailer: 2007 Casita
Posts: 3,440
I haven't been around in a couple of weeks so I certainly don't know if Mitchell was speaking of a particular Ad or not. And since I think that maybe the post did take a different path, though I see that more questions were asked along the way, so I am kinda lost. But I am going to put my two cent's in anyway. If you were talking about members posting replies to comment on a 4 sale ads asking price being too low. I have seen it, and probably contributed to it in a small way myself by sometimes posting a remark about a sale being a screaming deal ( though I have never tried to tell a seller that they need to raise their price, have seen it done though)! I have thought a lot about it. And waver on if I should have remarked about it being a screaming deal. But I tend to do it, for the sake of the members here who are searching for their fiberglass trailer versus the Seller. ( Mostly because of what Donna said about (another topic) the amount of people who join only to sell their egg's and who don't care to join the forum. Only to use the forum for their benefit ( my words not her's, she's nicer than I am). That being said, we as glass owner probably get excited and often times don't think before we speak up about our little wonders. I use to post a lot of referral ad's cause I enjoy the search, and know how hard they are to find. And if you don't know some of the short cuts to searching it can be a draining process. And often times when I run across a 4 sale that I think is way over priced, I don't post it! I don't post for the sake of filling up the page with 4 sales. I post for the sake of people who desire to buy one. That's just me, others will run across the same ad and post it here. I am of the thought that if the seller doesn't get a few hundred calls the first week then maybe they will have a reality check and lower their price. Sometimes I have posted an ad that later I determine could be a scam, I try and warn people to be aware I think it's a funny sale. But I think it all comes down to as others have said, buyer beware! Know the product and be educated on it.

I am kinda like Raya, I hate the whole process when I am the one selling. I just want it sold. Example, I bought a 85 Casita that I paid $2000 for, when a few weeks later I found the newer Casita that I really wanted in the first place, I put the 85 up for sale at the price I bought it for even though I put new tires on before I left the town I purchased it in as well as purchased new flooring (still in box for them to have) all the parts I already ordered from the factory and threw in a few bottles of wax that I had bought to shine it but hadn't had time to do since my "egg" attraction had moved on to the newer one. I wasn't trying to rip anyone off. I just wanted to get it sold and was willing to lose over $300 to do it. Take it or leave it. Of course the kid that bought it, thought I would settle for less, Not! I stuck to my guns and got the $2000 I asked for. Was it a screaming deal? Who knows, I just know what I was willing to pay for it and what I was willing to sell it for.

Personaly I suggest that if your in the search for a fiberglass egg, do it yourself. Don't wait for it to be posted here by one of us or the seller. You call them and be ready to roll the minute you find the ad. I found mine, called, bought, a week before it got posted here in the referral forum ( Thankfully Greg A was on vacation and others didn't find it). So when someone did finally find the Ad and post it, I was able to post it was sold to me! Just like when people are really interested in a certain Ad they post their question on the forum and wait for a response as well as drawing attention of other buyers, rather than calling the seller direct. Being proactive with your buying will get you the trailer you want at the price your willing to pay. Hope my being lost didn't take the post even farther from what you were asking.
__________________
Robin G is offline  
Old 08-06-2009, 03:29 AM   #36
Senior Member
 
Roger C H's Avatar
 
Name: Roger
Trailer: 2009 Trillium 1300 "Homelet"/2014 Subaru Outback "Rosie"
Washington
Posts: 2,172
Registry
Talking

NADA publishes a pricing guide:

http://www.nadaguides.com/SectionHome.aspx...;p=0&f=5602
__________________
A charter member of the Buffalo Plaid Brigade!

Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right.
Roger C H is offline  
Old 08-06-2009, 06:28 AM   #37
Senior Member
 
Donna D.'s Avatar
 
Name: Donna D
Trailer: Escape 5.0 TA, 2014
Oregon
Posts: 24,433
Quote:
NADA publishes a pricing guide:

http://www.nadaguides.com/SectionHome.aspx...;p=0&f=5602
This is one way to educate yourself about pricing for molded fiberglass trailers. [b]NOT. As we've mentioned many times on FiberglassRV and all the other fiberglass forums, NADA is most often waaay under when it comes to pricing of molded lightweight fiberglass trailers. We see that most often in insurance claims. If this is the information one is using to determine prices when they wish to buy.... boy, are they in for a shock when reality hits.
__________________
Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
Donna D. is offline  
Old 08-06-2009, 07:10 AM   #38
Senior Member
 
Alf S.'s Avatar
 
Name: Alfred
Trailer: 2014 Escape 5.0TA / 2010 Nissan Frontier
Ontario
Posts: 3,816
Registry
Send a message via Yahoo to Alf S.
Hi: All... Old Mr. Webster defines Haggle as..."to argue about the price of an article as a process of buying and selling."
If you don't ask enough you can't go back for more.
I know a fellow who sold his Boler for $800. and couldn't figure out why every caller was triping over themselves to get there first!!!
I bought my '77 for more than it sold for originally. Go Figure!!!
A good deal is reached when two GUYS beat each other up enough that one of 'em says UNCLE!!!
Alf S. North shore of Lake Erie
__________________
Alf S. is offline  
Old 08-06-2009, 08:53 AM   #39
Senior Member
 
Trailer: Bigfoot 21 ft Rear Bed
Posts: 335
Quote:
This is one way to educate yourself about pricing for molded fiberglass trailers. [b]NOT. As we've mentioned many times on FiberglassRV and all the other fiberglass forums, NADA is most often waaay under when it comes to pricing of molded lightweight fiberglass trailers. We see that most often in insurance claims. If this is the information one is using to determine prices when they wish to buy.... boy, are they in for a shock when reality hits.
I don't think this is necessarily true. NADA seems to give a good approximation for late model trailers.
__________________
Steve Dunkel is offline  
Old 08-06-2009, 09:14 AM   #40
Senior Member
 
Weinel, Alan's Avatar
 
Name: Alan
Trailer: FORMERLY:Scamp 19 ft 5th Wheel Deluxe ('The White House')
California
Posts: 329
I ran a quote for our 2008 and it seemed "reasonable".

The issue, though, is (like Dawn said), many buyers will CONSIDER whatever you qoute as a "starting point".
SO.... you either start higher and come TO **THE** price, or you make it clear that yours is a FIRM price.




Quote:
I don't think this is necessarily true. NADA seems to give a good approximation for late model trailers.
__________________
Weinel, Alan is offline  
Old 08-06-2009, 01:04 PM   #41
Senior Member
 
Donna D.'s Avatar
 
Name: Donna D
Trailer: Escape 5.0 TA, 2014
Oregon
Posts: 24,433
Quote:
I don't think this is necessarily true. NADA seems to give a good approximation for late model trailers.
That may be true, late model trailers. But anything that isn't considered "late model" it drops value like a rock. Ask anyone that's had an insurance claim and the insurance company used NADA to value the trailer. Never mind what reality says. The problem is when newbies use NADA to try and determine the price of a "used" not-late-model-trailer and then go out to try and buy. It's an opener
__________________
Donna D.
Ten Forward - 2014 Escape 5.0 TA
Double Yolk - 1988 16' Scamp Deluxe
Donna D. is offline  
Old 08-06-2009, 01:45 PM   #42
Senior Member
 
Chester Taje's Avatar
 
Name: Ches
Trailer: 1992 Kustom Koach 17 FT
British Columbia
Posts: 4,897
I have been looking for a FGRV project unit. I know lots about most of these units. Before the economy went nuts I could find lots of real cheap units. People are now getting smart. They have come to realize that small units sell pretty good and these same people are upping there price.
__________________

__________________
Retired Underground Coal Miner.
Served in Canadian Army (1PPCLI)
Chester Taje is offline  
Closed Thread


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
pricing for a bonair oxygen??? landry yves General Chat 4 09-08-2009 08:51 AM
Propane usage khoa l General Chat 13 11-03-2008 10:07 PM
Pricing Steve Wishek Money Matters 28 03-18-2008 12:08 PM
Depreciation on investment Ericpa3 General Chat 12 01-06-2007 09:23 PM
Escape Pricing Reace General Chat 2 09-26-2006 09:26 PM

» Upcoming Events
No events scheduled in
the next 465 days.
» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.