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Old 07-21-2011, 02:43 PM   #15
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Congrats, Do you have a name for it? Were you one of the first 25 to receive your discount?
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Well, congrats! and thanks for keeping us posted
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What date do you get it?
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I'm putting in my order for a lil snoozy. Anyone out there have a lil snoozy already?? any advice on extras to order?? What did the pocono rally people think of the lil snoozy??

I just sold my 16 foot scamp. I dearly loved the scamp, but hate that they never upgrade and fix some of the known problems with their trailers. Scamp -- why can't you get rid of all the rivets?? Those little caps over the rivets don't age well, what a pain.... I also wish there was better storage in the Scamp, wish the front door fit the scamp better.

I've been searching for awhile, wanting to upgrade my fiberglass trailer. Just want a trailer that will last and last, and has less maintenance to take care of

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The Li'l Snoozy looks like a nice trailer, and it is fair to compare it to the 16 Scamp, although I don't see $15 and 15minutes work every four years fairly characterized as "What a pain". and that's only if you store it outside in the elements.
BTW; they don't assemble the deluxe with rivets.
After changing the door gasket and latch on my Scamp, the door fits and seals beautifully and has for seven years.[Scamp now offers that gasket design aftermarket.]
During the honeymoon you see your mate as flawless.
During the divorce you see your mate as nothing but flaws.

Later you may see some of the imperfections in the Li'l Snoozy and look back with nostalgia on some of the virtues of the Scamp.

Best of luck on your next "trailer honeymoon" and I sincerely hope you still like it after seven years as much as we still like our Scamp. [No seven year itch here!]

Having owned several Scamps which were more than a quarter century old, I think that they have demonstrated their ability to "last and last".
Given time, your Li'l Snoozy may just prove itself as well.
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Disc brakes, a plus. Surge or electric brakes, depends if you have a controller.
hi, Jim

I don't understand the surge-vs.-electric-brakes buyer's choice part of the above- It's my understanding that surge brakes don't know the difference between stopping and backing up. Do Snoozy's brakes come set up with the free-backing mechanism that releases the brakes when backing?
Or does a buyer have to wire a release solenoid in to the TV?

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hi, Jim

I don't understand the surge-vs.-electric-brakes buyer's choice part of the above- It's my understanding that surge brakes don't know the difference between stopping and backing up. Do Snoozy's brakes come set up with the free-backing mechanism that releases the brakes when backing?
Or does a buyer have to wire a release solenoid in to the TV?

thanks!

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All the UHaul trailers have surge brakes. Think about it, if you wanted to rent a trailer, how many people out there have brake controller for electric brakes. Surge brakes work but in a different way. The T@b's have surge brakes. They have been in operation for years with success. Electric brakes need to have a brake controller. I think you can order either one on Snoozy. Without researching surge brakes, I think all you do is back up 2 feet to release them and drive away. If you can not tell that the brakes are on then that is something else. I also think that surge brakes give you an emergency brake option, something the electric does not. There are trade off's in everything we do.
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Floyd says above "The Li'l Snoozy looks like a nice trailer, and it is fair to compare it to the 16 Scamp, although I don't see $15 and 15minutes work every four years fairly characterized as "What a pain". and that's only if you store it outside in the elements.
BTW; they don't assemble the deluxe with rivets."

Is the statement true that deluxe Scamps do not have exterior rivets? If so, I may consider buying one. Can any else confirm or deny this. Donna, are you there?
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Yeap, they bond wood inside with fiberglass then hang cabinets with screws from the inside.

I've never figured why they don't do that with the standard models as they bond a piece of wood for the couch back to hang from and the bench seats are screwed into wood bonded inside.

Now the bonding of wood would be in different areas because the Deluxe cabinets are a different size than the standard. I know this because I tried to get them to put a front dinette in my standard 13 and they wouldn't. I said just put the deluxe in. They said they couldn't because it would not fit as the deluxe models have different size cabinets.
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All the UHaul trailers have surge brakes. Think about it, if you wanted to rent a trailer, how many people out there have brake controller for electric brakes. Surge brakes work but in a different way. The T@b's have surge brakes. They have been in operation for years with success. Electric brakes need to have a brake controller. I think you can order either one on Snoozy. Without researching surge brakes, I think all you do is back up 2 feet to release them and drive away. If you can not tell that the brakes are on then that is something else. I also think that surge brakes give you an emergency brake option, something the electric does not. There are trade off's in everything we do.
Backing up a few feet is what I do to get out of four wheel drive...I'm pretty sure that surge brakes have to be overridden somehow or they sense backing as slowing/stopping.
I know U-Hauls- and most other rental trailers- come with surge brakes- the backup-override is on the tongue in those cases...
I thought you might know what the story was with Snoozy, since you've seen it. The site lists "disc brakes" as standard equipment, but it says nothing about how they're actuated. Can they be actuated by a regular electric brake controller?
Guess I'll have to ask them!

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Ken C- Frrom what I have read, bear in mind I have not seen one in person, the inside walls are fiberglass gel coat. The entire structure is a foam core fiberglass sandwich. So no exposed foam. Please feel free to correct me, those with first hand experience, if I am wrong.
The inside has some sort of finish, it is not gelcoat like my Egg Camper. I was there at the Poconos and inspected it thoroughly.
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Sorry for all the duplicates, but I wanted to eliminate the other issue re: Scamp Deluxe and move the posts to a new thread and made a mistake and duplicated them here. So I went and eliminated the duplicate entries, please excuse me.
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Hi, all

Got a lickety-split reply from Nicholas at Lil Snoozy about the brakes...
I'll just paste in what he said.

"The brakes on the trailer are surge brakes with a back-up override. When you connect your lights to the tow vehicle, you usually have a 4 pin connector. In the Snoozy we use a 5 pin (same flat plug just with one extra pin). This extra pin is the brake lock out, if wired into the reverse lights of the tow vehicle. Your same 4 pin plug will work but you will not have the brake lock.
Thank you for the opportunity to answer your questions.

Thanks for the quick reply, Nicholas!
Sounds like it'd be advisable to have your TV wired for 5-pin, Ruth- otherwise your trailer brakes will be applied when you back up!

Francesca

P.S. to anybody that knows:
Doesn't the Snoozy come with an on-board battery????
If so- can the tow vehicle charge it if it only has a 5-pin connection?
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sounds like you may need the 6 pin set up with the auxiliary for the on board battery
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sounds like you may need the 6 pin set up with the auxiliary for the on board battery
That would work- but wouldn't you have to change the trailer connection, too???
I just looked at the specs again- it does come with a battery as standard equipment, but no language about a charger or converter.
Looks like the battery can only be charged by means of another battery or a separate 110v charger...
Can that be right?

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