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Old 06-02-2016, 08:50 PM   #15
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what did a 1998 Scamp 16 cost when new?

Your probably want to have the brakes, tires, bearings gone through as soon as you get it and probably a new battery. So add another 500 or more bills to that price.

I figure 1/2 life half price and add another 25% if it's a cherry like new unused rig stored in a controlled environment. Reality is somewhere between the 2 extremes. If it's local and you don't have to spend a dime to check it out it's worth more than one you have to spend 500 bucks just to get to just to see it.

Lets face it a 20 year old rig is still going to give you some headaches.
Are the propane bottles current? when was the pressure regulator and hoses last replaced. How about the water pumps and water heater. Were the windows and vents ever resealed and the rivet caps ever replaced?

This all adds up especially if you don't do the work yourself.

If this is a properly priced rig we wouldn't be having this conversation. It would have been gone already. Unless you have a special inside line.

Whats it worth to you to buy new and put off camping until next year?
The assumption being that no one does the maintenance when needed???...
You make some valid points,but every valid point you have made above would apply to the purchase of a 3YO trailer.

I have sold 30 year old trailers for three times the original price and worth every penny. In fact when I sold one 1978 Scamp13, the buyers immediately lived in it and traveled for three months without incident. They then went home and sold it for more than they paid.


After about ten years or so (maybe less), the YEAR becomes only a number on a title, nothing more...condition , features and availability would be determining factors.
A well maintained twenty YO trailer could easily be worth more than some neglected and abused 5YO trailers.


When my trailer is sold, probably from my estate, it will be ready to go on any trip the buyer chooses and it will still have working features which are not available from the factory.
Of course anything can break at anytime from the day of manufacture, that's why they have warranties.
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Old 06-03-2016, 08:19 AM   #16
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You have all helped me a great deal. We are planning to sell our vintage Avion Class C because we don't want to have to deal with ongoing repair needs or pay for a complete upgrade.
So we are looking at buying a new Casita, it was less than we expected and we can avoid some pitfalls.


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Old 06-29-2016, 12:01 PM   #17
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You have all helped me a great deal. We are planning to sell our vintage Avion Class C because we don't want to have to deal with ongoing repair needs or pay for a complete upgrade.
So we are looking at buying a new Casita, it was less than we expected and we can avoid some pitfalls.


Thank you all!

I've been lurking on here for the last few months shopping for a "new" camper.

After watching ads at what I considered very high prices for 10 years old or more Scamps and Casitas, and seeing them sell quickly I decided to buy new as well.

I think there is a misconception about how much Scamps and Casitas are new. I talked to one seller who said it would be a new comparable scamp to his '98 would be "at least $25k." I saw similar things in other ads. I had assumed with their growing popularity it was true.

I decided to call and find out. A fairly loaded Scamp 16 is around $17,500. Casita is very similar.
I put a deposit down on a 2017 Casita 16 SD with about all the options for tick over $18k. The 17' was $1200 more.

I had an interesting conversation with the Casita rep about used prices. He said they see many 1-2 year old Casitas sell for more than they cost new.
I did see several ads for newish 16' and 17' Casitas for $19k or more.

Maybe I'll use it for a season, sell for a profit and order another one.
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Old 06-29-2016, 12:38 PM   #18
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On quality I would put Escape above Scamp.

As would most people who have experienced both who do not exhibit blind loyalty to Scamp.


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Old 06-29-2016, 02:32 PM   #19
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Teresa - how exciting, make sure to keep us updated.
Jake - you are right, you definitely want to find out prices for new before you possibly overpay for used
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Old 06-29-2016, 03:45 PM   #20
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Always a fun discussion

Fiberglass trailers are always a conversation waiting to happen, parked in a Newfoundland campground one person came over to look at our Scamp. The discussion often begins with the age, our's is 25. Of course no one believes it, probably not about most any trailer. 25 Really??

The discussion sometimes turns to how is it different from newer models. Mostly by our modifications. Ginny is quick to say we can't get a new one because we'd have to do all the mods.

Sometimes when you buy used you get a problem or two, but sometimes you get a lot of bonuses... like solar panels, like all LED lighting, like extra AC/DC outlets, added storage, shelving and pantry, drawers and cabinets, under trailer storage, tire sensors, break away switch, ....

Ginny says if we were very wealthy she doubts we replace our trailer...we might replace the floor carpeting, or maybe buy a lithium battery, or.... all things we'll probably do one of these days.

Everytime we take a trip we come away with an improvement from people we meet or things we discover. Usually we come home and add something. It becomes more of what we need, not a compromise.

If someone has loved their trailer, used their trailer, it's could be better than any factory trailer. Like Floyd I expect our trailer to be part of our estate and hopefully a better trailer than it is today.
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Fiberglass trailers are always a conversation waiting to happen, parked in a Newfoundland campground one person came over to look at our Scamp. The discussion often begins with the age, our's is 25. Of course no one believes it, probably not about most any trailer. 25 Really??

The discussion sometimes turns to how is it different from newer models. Mostly by our modifications. Ginny is quick to say we can't get a new one because we'd have to do all the mods.

Sometimes when you buy used you get a problem or two, but sometimes you get a lot of bonuses... like solar panels, like all LED lighting, like extra AC/DC outlets, added storage, shelving and pantry, drawers and cabinets, under trailer storage, tire sensors, break away switch, ....

Ginny says if we were very wealthy she doubts we replace our trailer...we might replace the floor carpeting, or maybe buy a lithium battery, or.... all things we'll probably do one of these days.

Everytime we take a trip we come away with an improvement from people we meet or things we discover. Usually we come home and add something. It becomes more of what we need, not a compromise.

If someone has loved their trailer, used their trailer, it's could be better than any factory trailer. Like Floyd I expect our trailer to be part of our estate and hopefully a better trailer than it is today.

Norm - Those are great points about buying used from a caring owner. Finding a caring owner can be the trick.
We plan to keep our Casita for a long time. That was partly the reason we went with a new one. The extra few thousand dollars it cost now spread over 30 years is minimal. Yes we plan to use it for 30 years (or more). My wife and I are both 44 now and have a 6 year old. We will use it seasonally with our son until he is through school and we are retired. Then we will (hopefully) use it more frequently.
Stories like yours are a great inspiration.
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Poor house,
I'm not opposed to buying new. At my age it wouldn't make much sense. We do buy new tow vehicles and our plan is always to keep them for 10 years and replace them. Reliability is paramount because I've never been a vehicle person.

Wish you well over the next 30 years.

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