Pricing - Fiberglass RV

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Old 03-06-2007, 02:12 PM   #1
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Recently, we started a topic about our newly launched fiberglass trailer, named Genesis. The response was varied, and we learned a lot from the comments of the members of the forum, which we appreciate very much.

One of the more excitable points of discussion revolved around the pricing. Since everyone was very forthcoming, we would like to ask you all a question. At what retail price should Genesis be offered? Recognizing that our costs are our costs, we may or may not be able to react, but a least, we would like to know what people think because in the end, the only thing that matters is what the market will accept.

If you would like to review the product again, you may see it at Please bear in mind as you make your recommendations, those standard features that are included. If you do not value those features, then please say that as well. Finally please bear in mind, we do not intend to start an auction, we are only interested in understanding your individual views and as a result, gain a better understanding of the market at large.

Thanks in advance. We are certainly looking forward to some interesting posts.

Steve W.

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Old 03-06-2007, 02:37 PM   #2
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To be frank it should be priced less than a Casita/Scamp comparibly equipped.

I do like it but I don't think I would go for it myself as I would like a little more area to spread out in in bad weather. It looks to be smaller than my Burro 13' inside. Although it does have a lot of appeal.

The features/equipment are outstanding if they indeed are all standard.

One thing, it wasn't clear if there is an 12v converter/charger or not.

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Old 03-06-2007, 02:45 PM   #3
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One thing, it wasn't clear if there is an 12v converter/charger or not.

Loaded as it is, probably should be in the 15- 16k range.
There is a 25 amp converter/charger. All appliances including the TV/DVD player run on 12 volts with the exception of the AC, which requires 115.

We appreciate your ideas and comments. Thanks.

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Old 03-06-2007, 03:23 PM   #4
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Your trailer looks very nice and has what would be considered options on Big Foots, Casitas, Scamps, etc. I especially like the idea of an outdoor galley area, given that you don't camp when it's very cold outside. It looks like, however, the the gross weight and price is well above other 13 foot fiberglass trailers with comparable equipment. Check out the manufactures sites and do your own comparison.

Good luck. It's always nice to have options in buying out there.

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Old 03-06-2007, 05:24 PM   #5
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Hi Steve, I personally don't like an outside galley as I like to make coffee first thing in morning., even if it's to heat water for instant. The space looks acceptable for comfort tho the wt. may be a little heavy for the smaller vehicles. The refridgerator is a nice idea and portable. Still a nicely designed trailer but not for me. Bill
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:58 PM   #6
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It looks built well and has nice appointments. It would be suitable for warm weather areas. It is more like a specialty trailer than a general use trailer.
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Old 03-06-2007, 09:57 PM   #7
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I am a teardrop owner and your trailer shares similar traits with Camp-Inn's 560 model, which lists for $15060, so with everything you offer I'd say you're in the ballpark.

You've created a unique trailer, which isn't quite a teardrop (because of the shape) and isn't really a traditional fiberglass trailer (because of the outside galley). It looks very well made.

I'm curious, how did you come to this design and who is your target audience?

This fiberglassrv site is only one of many small trailer sites that you may want to introduce your trailer to members. Just beware that at some sites (I won't mention names, but you can get it from me in a PM) the members get really upset if your first message is a "for sale" message.

Good luck!

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Old 03-06-2007, 10:36 PM   #8
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To be frank it should be priced less than a Casita/Scamp comparibly equipped.
I think that we (as a class of consumers) have become acustomed to factory-direct pricing, which has been promoted to be lower than through a Dealer network. I don't see this as competition for Scamp or Casita. Rather, it seems to be a "sporty" prelude to the Bigfoot market segment.
To use the automobile metafor, Scamp and Casita would be Ford and Chevy, while Genesis would be the little BMW entry into the Mercedes market.
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Old 03-07-2007, 05:38 AM   #9
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Like Carl, I'd suggest that you price it in line with the products with which you expect to be in direct competition, whatever market you perceive that to be. The outside kitchen ala teardrop genre is an interesting twist in a FGRV. I don't know how much success you can expect among the Scamp/Casita/Escape/Trillium buyers. I suspect that Genesis will appeal more to the hot rod/teardrop group who are accustomed to that arrangement than to much of the membership here who generally seek all-weather accommodations.

You've got a great looking product, Steve. Thanks for sharing it with us. I hope it's successful, and that you'll keep us apprised of how you (and Genesis) are doing!

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Old 03-07-2007, 06:31 AM   #10
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I too wish you much luck Steve You may wish to revisit all the options that you've turned into standards. That has driven up the price AND the weight. There are those who would prefer to pick 'n chose exactly which features they want/need. Not everyone wants a "Cadillac." A base price for a base camper may also be required For instance, I don't want A/C, bought my trailer without an awning and enjoyed the trailer for a number of years without it! Maybe even all the "appliances," from furnace to galley stuff....ala stove and refer. Teardrops come to mind because so many people use coolers and small-bottle stoves.

The one thing that I 100% agree on, is you MUST get the price lower than a comparable outfitted Scamp/Casita in order to be in their buy ballpark.

Have you considered dual-pane windows? Right now, there isn't a seller making a small LIGHTWEIGHT trailer with dual-panes. For those in cold weather climates that would be great!

Best of Luck!
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Old 03-07-2007, 03:04 PM   #11
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Thanks to all of you who have contributed you thoughts.

Genesis is intended for support of outdoor oriented activities such as biking, hiking, camping, tailgating, and so on. While we may not compete directly with Scamp or Casita, we have to concede that our pricing is not realistic.

We have published a revised MSRP on our website, at We will find ways to reduce our costs to manufacture without compromising our vision for Genesis in order to support this new MSRP.

We appreciate your kind replies and thank you once again.

Best regards

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Old 03-07-2007, 06:15 PM   #12
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While I'll concede your referenced "...outdoor oriented activities..." are indeed why all of us have our trailers, there are always times that inclement weather will force the outdoors lover in. (In fact, those times seem to follow us around like Joe Bpfsplk's cloud.) That's why I think more than a sofa bed is called for here.
Congratulations on getting the thing down to 12 feet but at 2800 pounds dry, (considerably more than my Trillium 5500) I really wish there was a space for a chair.

In answer to your initial query, though, I think the listed price is eminently fair considering what you've put into this thing.
It's just not for us.

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Old 03-08-2007, 01:27 AM   #13
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Definitely some interesting features. The bath is a nice feature for sure. The outdoor kitchen would not appeal to me personally and I like the aesthetics of my 13' Egg shaped Scamp a bit better than the boxier look with this. The weight would also put this beyond the limits of my tow vehicle without adding costly modifications which the Scamp doesn't do. Keep us posted on your progress with Genesis.
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Old 03-08-2007, 07:08 AM   #14
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Perhaps you could offer an optional exterior bar-b-que plumbed into the propane system. There are a few different mounted or free standing systems that may be of interest to the tailgating crowd.

If you could arrange for the use of professional team logos I would expect that you would get a lot of interest from those that are unusually devoted to their team.

An optional mount for exterior flat screen TV coupled with a Honda 2000 genertor would let the really dedicated parking lot gypsies watch a show while getting ready for the big game.

The water tanks are very well sized, great capacity, do they have a water level monitoring system?

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