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Old 01-10-2007, 08:57 PM   #29
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I guess, the important thing is that it is worth the effort to get those trailers under 16' registered with a PTI tag! It gives us more money to fix up the eggs or to go camping.

$52.00 = My Fiber Stream's [b]Trailer Coach (CCH) annual plate renewal fee for a fully depreciated 29 year old vehicle.
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$260.00 = 5 year cost of (CCH) plate
-10.00 = 5 year cost of (CMP) plate

$250.00 = net savings after 5 years
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Old 01-10-2007, 11:27 PM   #30
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Money, like everything else, is relative. $250 over 5 years may not sound like much, but to me, raising 3 kids, one in college, one a senior in high school headed to college and the last a teenage girl, every $1 I can get hold of looks good!. Hmm...$250 is about $250 more than I paid for my trailer. It would probably buy new tires, and hopefully, a bottle or two of mold killer!
Alternatively, after 5 years of cleaning and fixing, I should have at least one kid out of college and can use the $250 to pay for a few days of campsite at MacKericher State Park on the beach.
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Old 01-02-2008, 03:10 PM   #31
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The Illinois Toll road sees any trailer/car combo as three axles thereby making it a medium commercial vehicle.
Which of course jacks up the toll at least three times.
Gotta love bureaucracy. Which if you change one letter you get bureau crazy.
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Old 01-03-2008, 03:41 PM   #32
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Wow!

This is great info!

I bought my 1990 16' Scamp last spring and paid $72.00 for a years registration due in August. Had I known . . . . I would have requested the PTI.

So how do I "correct" this? I'm guessing a trip to DMV or AAA is in my future. I don't supose they'd give me a refund . . . at the time I bought the trailer, I'd filed the paperwork at AAA and nothing was said about PTI being possible?!

Thanks for posting this . . . $72 x 5 = $360.00 ! ! ! . . . now I can get those new cushion covers!

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Old 01-03-2008, 09:16 PM   #33
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So how do I "correct" this? I'm guessing a trip to DMV or AAA is in my future.
Go back to the office of your choice.
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I showed the clerk the definition of "Camp Trailer" I printed off of the DMV website
I suggest you take a printout off of the actual DMV website with you, and have an attitude of being helpful...
(Oh, gee. Look what I just found.)
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Old 03-07-2008, 02:04 AM   #34
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This is an awesome site. Thank you all. After reading this post re PTI, when we go to register our "soon to be ours" Scamp, I will be sure to ask to have a PTI instead of annual registration. This will definitely save us some $$$. We'll be able to get some solar panels a bit sooner now!!! Thanks again all! Gail & hubby
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Old 03-07-2008, 09:13 AM   #35
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That's the ONE thing the DMV has not given me any trouble about- the PTI part. At least not so far (knock on wood.)

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Old 03-10-2008, 01:24 AM   #36
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Hi fellow PTI and potential PTI members. I've got an extension of this topic you might be able to help me with. This site has helped tremendously in my search for the perfect FGRV and I thought I was finally going to pick up a '96 16' Casita that I happened across on craigslist, with my cashier's check in hand, but have run into a slight glitch.

The "owner" couldn't find the title and vaguely remembers the DMV telling him he didn't have to purchase a new title in order to register the vehicle. Pretty sure it's registered PTI, as the plates on the trailer have no place for registration decals and he's owned the trailer for almost two years and never received a registration renewal. I think at this point, I will just have to anxiously wait and hope that he doesn't find someone who will buy it without a title. We do have a handwritten purchase contract and his wife is an attorney, so I hope he will manage to contact DMV in his "spare" time this week and figure out how to get hold of some sort of transfer of title and, hopefully, the PTI registration...

Anyone sold a PTI-registered trailer in CA, since this program started?

Thanks for any suggestions...

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Old 03-10-2008, 01:37 AM   #37
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I have sold 3 of them, but I had a title for all of them.

I recall the DMV telling me with all my trailers that a title is NOT required in California for a PTI registered trailer, but if you opt not to pay the title transfer fee, a new title is difficult to acquire.

I would wait until he had some official paperwork before handing him the money, just to avoid problems. Lawyer wife or no.
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:28 AM   #38
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I see the problem for you is if you go to resell and don't have the title. Not all states have PTI like California, here in Oregon you must have a title to register the trailer. As an Oregonian, there's no way I'd purchase a trailer without a title.
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Old 03-10-2008, 08:19 PM   #39
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Anyone sold a PTI-registered trailer in CA, since this program started?
I sold my 1971 Compact Jr., which had PTI plates, Title, and Identification Card while I owned it, to a friend of mine. I took him into the AAA office and we conducted the whole transaction there in front of the clerk at AAA's DMV desk. The clerk patiently explained to my friend that PTI was a totally different transaction than registering a trailer coach:

A Trailer Coach is similar to an automobile, in that there is a Title, a [b]Registration card, and Month/Year tabs for the License plate. The latter 2 must be renewed every year.

A Camp Trailer gets a [b]Permanent Trailer Identification. Not a Registration, The [b]Identification card goes with a Permanent License Plate. A title is no longer required for trailers in this program, and the identification card is good for 5 years. Since the program is new, if a trailer comes into the program with a pre-existing title, the purchaser has the option of paying a separate [b]$17 fee to renew the existing title with the new Identification.

[b]BUT, the clerk said, emphatically, if that purchaser declines the title option, the title record is PURGED from the state computer system, and CANNOT be reinstated. <<cue Theatre Organ Dissonant Chord!!!>>

My friend said, "Ten dollars for five years? And I don't HAVE TO pay the extra $17? Forget the title."

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Oh noooooo,

(Beware, ongoing drama...)

Now I KNOW this is what the previous owner did! I wondered why he couldn't just fork out the $17 for the title if he was going to be getting a ck for over $6K? Kept saying that the DMV claims I only need the bill of sale to "register" and would be able to obtain a title if I paid the $17 fee, but also let it slip that he didn't have a title from the original owner when he registered the trailer, exactly as your friend did, and then mentioned soemthing about his registration possibly being late...

So, I assumed possible penalties for a late registration(?), or that he didn't have his PTI identification card with him, and asked him to just mail back my deposit check.

Forgetting that he had given me his "cover," he called back, an hour later and says he'll go to the DMV, again, early in the am and tow the trailer to work to obtain the title and avoid storage problems, practically demanding that I pick it up from his office, which is in an inconvenient part of town, and went on about his financial hardship and his wife needing her car, and the fact that he needed his cover back... I just listened, silently, and said why don't you call me when you have the title, tomorrow morning and we will get the cashier's ck and arrange to pick up the trailer, tomorrow. Now I know he will have difficulty obtaining a title! Oh well, as Donna says, "...if it was meant to be," the title will magically appear, or another, better trailer will present itself...
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Donna!

Sometimes it is okay to talk about government rules and regulations, and sometimes it is not.

"If anyone has fought DMV on this issue and won please let me know" is alright round here, whereas the BC carbon tax is not.

Going to my carbon-neutral room now....
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Hi: Emily W. Maybe His WIFE wants to keep her half of the trailer... and will return to claim said property even though you have paid for it... WATCH OUT!!!
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