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Old 06-20-2012, 12:43 AM   #15
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The five trips I mentioned were all pulling my 13' Scamp for 7-10 day trips.

I can't speak to crossing on a work permit. Ron Mayo
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What was the purpose of the visits and how long were they? I've never had a problem crossing the border as a tourist, never had a trailer, but wouldn't suspect it being that big a deal to bring a camper over to camp. But bringing a camper over when you crossing on a work permit might just look a little weird. Especially towed by a Miata!

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There are laws regarding what you need to do to register/declare in regards to personal effects & vehicles that you bring into Canada to live/work temporarily. Varies as to your length of stay & reason for being here. You really need to go to the government website and read up on what forums you may need or not need before you hit the border.

You can start here There is also a number you can call.
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:54 AM   #17
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Welcome to Vancouver - the rv park you picked by the Lions Gate Bridge is the only RV park we have remotely close to downtown Vancouver so if you havent made reservations you should! Its also the only one we have on the North Shore as well. Its a real good central location - takes less than 10 min to ride your bike to downtown & there is a great beach & park beside it. More than a few movie stars have used that as their base with their small Airstreams while filming in Hollywood North - yup thats what Vancouver is also known for..... besides the rain ;-)
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Sounds like I found a GEM! I've been full timing in my 13" Scamp since last fall in New Mexico, commuting 22 miles down the mountain to Albuquerque. My coworkers get endless amusement from me living in a tiny trailer. They've kidded me, "So you gonna live in your trailer up in Vancouver?!", I laugh and say, "Very funny, Vancouver isn't the RV Mecca Albuquerque is surrounded by tons of open land, no way there'd be a campground a decent commute from downtown". But I checked on a whim and sure enough! I'll call tomorrow and check back in with them. And yes, sure enough, I'm in the film business. But I only rarely get to see or even more rarely meet them. Happened more back when I lived in LA. I'm a computer nerd.
As long as you are not entering the country with the intent to move here & stay, you will not need anything special for your trailer crossing the border as long as you are leaving your US plates & insurance on in. It would be a good bet there is a limit as to how long it can stay here without doing a bunch of paper work though. If you tell them you are coming to work here and stay longer than x so many months they will want to see your work permit etc....... There are actually regulations in regards to bring in personal property while temp living here which you should look up ahead of time. I seem to think that everything will need to be listed and submitted to customs so it can be taken back out again without a problem. Its a whole different processes than just coming for a visit.... Suspect as long as the trailer is entering only temporary it will not need to go through the formal import process that does indeed involve having it inspected.
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Oh, but I am! At least for 9 months, very good chance I'll stay longer. I've lived and worked overseas before and love the idea of permanent residence in another country, I'm not getting any younger and it's only going to be harder as I get closer to retirement. And you can't be more conveniently located to another country!

This is the main thrust of the thread! If I go over with US Cali plates on TV and trailer with the work permit, which I think will actually be much longer than the 9 month contract actually. And the contract I think indicates the position is ongoing (even if I know there's no guaranty beyond the first project). So customs will be expecting me to stay a while I suppose. So I am very interested in the implications of the trailer in my customs declaration!

Will there be any inspection of the vehicles for regulation compliance at the border? Or would I be given a document requiring inspection in a certain time? If I say I'm just coming up with a temporary a load until I get an apartment? And I'll have no permanent address at first beyond a campground? Oh man, I hope I don't get the cavity search!!!

Seriously I doubt there'll be any big problems, but I'd love to avoid complications and gotchas at the border. Hopefully they will let the vehicles in on the promise to import them if they end up staying. I do own a more practical car, that I wouldn't tow with, I might rather have in an urban environment if I don't keep the trailer over in Canada.
As far as you tow vehicle goes nope they will not be interested as long as it has plates and is insured.
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I hope that's the case in this case!
What are you towing with? I tow with an all wheel drive and its great in the rain. Nothing special you need to do just keep a good space between you and the car in front when driving in the rain whether towing or not..... - highly recommend if you dont already have them that you get good tires (bald tires are not great in the rain) - all season radials work well in Vancouver you can use them most years all year round - snow tires in Vancouver proper are not normally used. If you plan to head up to Whistler in the winter months (which is less than an hour and half from the RV park) then you will need snow tires or carry chains. Also making sure your windshield wipers are in good condition.
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Um.... A Miata? Not just any Miata, it's very beefy. Turbo, huge brakes, reinforced frame, heavy duty springs. But it does have a short wheel base and isn't all that heavy. So I tow very, very carefully. But feels pretty good to me after about 2000 miles of towing. Just had a new axil put on with brakes for peace of mind in a sudden stop or an unexpected sway. Very good sticky tires on the TV, "performance" tires, they do very good in the rain, but not so great in cold, beyond useless in standing snow. Never tried towing in beyond a sprinkle. Trailer tires still look newish. I think they are less than 2 years old. I have a set of Blizzaks for the Miata I hope to find a way to ship up, for the winter when I won't be towing and want to head up to the mountains. I'll find another set of wheels for easy swapping.
If your looking to store the trailer you might find more reasonable prices for storage in the Richmond or Surrey/Langley areas - trust me its costly in the few places we have in North Vancouver and there is little to no storage in Vancouver proper.......
Who knows, perhaps a friend will have a spare spot around town they'd rent cheap, but I suspect rent on parking spots in prime real estate is valuable! And I have no desire to tow in urban traffic, so I'd prefer a little in the boonies! We shall see. The campground said they had storage, only in the off season, for I think about $175 a month. Might be worth it to have fast access, and to be able to make sure I wasn't growing a mold cave! Heck, it might be nice to be able to just pull it into a spot and "camp" for the weekend some time when I'm sick of my loud urban apartment and want to go to the "country"! No need to tow beyond the campground! Heck, I could BIKE there from my apartment! I LOVE HAVING A TRAILER!!!! This should be fun.
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:58 AM   #18
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Your just wasting time.... trust me the Outback sold in N/A for the past 10 years does very well at going on the back mountain roads of BC were few would dare to go..... LOL went until you get here .... you will find lots... trust me no need to wait for a diesel to scare the pants off your self.
I hear ya, the diesel is more a dream TV. It'll be a while until I want to take on a car payment or those diesels will get here and trickle to the afordable used market. Much more likely I'll get a nice used (gas/petrol) one in a few years.
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There are laws regarding what you need to do to register/declare in regards to personal effects & vehicles that you bring into Canada to live/work temporarily. Varies as to your length of stay & reason for being here. You really need to go to the government website and read up on what forums you may need or not need before you hit the border.

You can start here There is also a number you can call.
Thanks for the link. I will surely check the official docs. This thread is more to get personal experiences. I've worked in New Zealand and Australia, I know more than I'd like about dealing with customs in general.
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Many people also rent out their parking space at apartments your Scamp would be easy to park as long as the height clearance is there.

I'll be hanging around Vancouver July & August I only take my trailer out in spring and fall. You can pm me if there is something you need help with.

True enough about being able to fit it anywhere you could park a van!

Sounds like you'll be gone by the time I'm there. But I may make an early pre visit before I start work in Sept. So if I'm up there in August I may PM you.
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Thanks for all the replies, information, humor and good company.
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:19 AM   #22
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(QUOTE=DYLANEAR) This is the main thrust of the thread! If I go over with US Cali plates on TV and trailer with the work permit, which I think will actually be much longer than the 9 month contract actually. And the contract I think indicates the position is ongoing (even if I know there's no guaranty beyond the first project). So customs will be expecting me to stay a while I suppose. So I am very interested in the implications of the trailer in my customs declaration! (QUOTE)

I imported my Scamp and its not a big deal. You do not need to do it if you are a visitors, for a period of 12 months or less; temporary residents such as students studying at an institution for their studies in Canada; or individuals with valid work permits for a period of 36 months or less.

If you decide your staying longer which a lot of visitors to our city do LOL which is why we have the highest real estate values in the English speaking world, you will need to register the trailer at the border into what we call the RIV program. The process of importing the trailer is simple. You do not need to take a trailer to the US Customs before importing it to Canada (you do with a car though and the process takes a few days). You just drive up to the Canadian border with the trailer with a Recall letter from Scamp which you need to register it into the RIV program. Scamp does lots of those letters and they know what it is and what it needs to say. The cost of registering it is currently $195. You will then need to take the trailer for an inspection - which is basically just looking to make sure all the lights work and that they have the DOT labels on them. Your Scamp will have no problems passing. You will not be able to register or obtain BC plates on the trailer until it has completed the RIV program..... your Miata as far as passing may be a whole different problem

If your Miata its more than 15 years old it will be pretty easy as it does not need to go into the RIV program - if its less than 15 years old it needs to also be entered into the RIV program. The list of admissible vehicles- Canada requires different safety features than the US so some cars sold in the US will not pass the safety inspection - even some of the brand new ones.

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Who knows, perhaps a friend will have a spare spot around town they'd rent cheap, but I suspect rent on parking spots in prime real estate is valuable!
I think you will find that most of the apartment towers do not have enough clearance to get a trailer into the underground parking. If you do find a friend with the house you will also find that there is a bylaw preventing them from keeping a trailer in the driveway during the winter months in Vancouver and North/West Vancouver. Sad but true. They can though hide it away in their backyard if there is access to it or inside a garage. As far as finding a spare parking spot in town that someone wants to rent cheap - I suspect you will find the words cheap and Vancouver are not often said in the same sentence. Welcome to Vancouver

Another area to look at for long term storage is the Squamish area (40 min out of downtown) - its a outdoor meca with lots of camping areas and its only another 45 min to Whistler from there. You may find someone with spare parking spot there who does not have the same RV parking bylaws to contend with that those of us in "the city" have to.
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Strangely enough, I've imported a .22 rifle, a Scamp and a Miata The only difference is that the Miata wasn't towing the Scamp. Although when I was much younger I towed a tent trailer with a TR4 with a canoe on the roof

A rifle isn't any big deal. Follow the rules, do the paperwork, no problem. Handguns are a different story. There're either prohibited or restricted and much more paperwork is required.

As Carol said, the trailer inspection is so simple and basic. If it's got lights and they can see the serial number you're done. Canadian Tire has the contract. Their fee is paid by the RIV fee that you pay at the border.

Cars; US customs requires 3 days notice to do the paperwork. Basically it gives them time to confirm that the car's not stolen. In Canada cars are required to have daytime headlights. Mine was fairly new so I took it to a dealer to have done. The older ones are easier and it can be a DIY job. Then on to Canadian Tire and their once over inspection.

I live on the North Shore at the foot of Seymour Mountain in a rain forest and get about twice the rain that downtown does. Mildew hasn't been a problem for me and if I only towed on non-rainy days I wouldn't get too far.

There is another RV storage park very close to the Air Care station. Lots of trailers stored there, but probably pricey.

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Ha! Got pictures of that TR4 towing?!!!

Thanks for the continuing information and experiences folks!
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I called the campground. They assured me, I asked about 4 times in the conversation, that they'd have a monthly spot for me when I showed up in early Sept. No reservations needed. They did say there is a 3 month minimum on the monthly rate. But even if I didn't stay the whole 3 months it would be cheaper paying for three months than even a month at the $75!!! daily rate.

Heck, if I manage to stay in the trailer all winter, that's about $6300 savings over what I'd expect to pay for a 1bdrm apartment near work.
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But even if I didn't stay the whole 3 months it would be cheaper paying for three months than even a month at the $75!!! daily rate. .
Glad to hear they have a more reasonable monthly rate. It's a beautiful area and your commute would be relatively easy. The bridge can get backed up sometimes but it's a real short trip to yale town...very bikable if your into that. I looked into to doing my first camping test run there and didn't have to think on it when i saw the rate.
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