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Old 02-27-2013, 09:45 AM   #1
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What is the deal with shipping to Canada?

This subject has been discussed in a number of obtuse ways, but I don't get it. Why does it cost so much to ship anything to Canada?

I was at our local post office lately and they had the flat rate shipping boxes on display. The large flat rate box was $16.85 to ship anything that fits inside anywhere in the USA. To ship to Canada, same box - $53.95!

So I can send a box of lead to my brother in California for 1/3 the price that I can send the same package to a friend in Windsor, 35 miles away.

What don't I understand about Canada's laws that keeps shipping so abysmally high?
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:53 AM   #2
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What adds to the cost is customs brokerage fees.

UPS really rips people off, big time, charging astronomical fees for a minutes work. In some cases these fees are greater than the cost of the item. I have gone so far as not bought things solely because they will only ship UPS. There are MANY other Canadians who feel the same way.

For work and personal shipping, which I do a fair bit of, my preference is always the USPS/Canada Post route. I have always had great service. The shipping charges are usually just a bit more than USP, but they include all brokerage fees.
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What adds to the cost is customs brokerage fees.

UPS really rips people off, big time, charging astronomical fees for a minutes work. In some cases these fees are greater than the cost of the item. I have gone so far as not bought things solely because they will only ship UPS. There are MANY other Canadians who feel the same way.
Jim I think you have it right in regards to what UPS charges - but I am still not convinced as to the reasons why. Canadians do not need to pay anything extra on an item worth CAN$20 or less - no duty or taxes on the item. Yet UPS still charges amounts that are way over the top for such things. Yet many online stores will ship the same item for free to a friend who lives 2 miles off the border - go figure. Some times if you call the company in the US you are buying from and ask if they will just ship the item to you using parcel post they will.
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A big business for US border towns near populated areas is temporary post boxes (mailing addresses). Canadians then can often get free shipping to there, and just go and pick it up themselves. Unfortunately, I am 3 hours from the border, and there is not much in Montana for another ways anyway. I know this is huge in Southern Ontario.
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Old 02-27-2013, 11:37 AM   #5
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It has nothing to do with the government, its just the shipping companies ripping you off. the same is happening everywhere ever since some genius dreamed up "fuel surcharge" for the airlines. UPS charges a minimum of $15 for any item over $20.00,and it grows as the value goes up Canada post charges $5
most of the time I can ship from Ukraine to Canada cheaper than from the US.

Ok rant off, sorry its a sore point with me
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It has nothing to do with the government, its just the shipping companies ripping you off.......
It would appear that your postal service is colluding or that would be a lower cost alternative. No?
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. I know this is huge in Southern Ontario.
Big in BC as well - mailbox service is a booming biz in Blaine Washington.
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An interesting article on this subject
Why Canada Post loves parcel delivery: Olive | Toronto Star
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Maybe I'm just dense, but I still don't get it.

Seems like using the postal system it shouldn't cost and arm and a leg to ship into Canada.
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Maybe I'm just dense, but I still don't get it.

Seems like using the postal system it shouldn't cost and arm and a leg to ship into Canada.
Whenever I have a purchase shipped from US to Canada, I always look for a company that ships using USPS and Canada Post, as this is almost always the most cost effective. When companies insist on using UPS, that is the highest costs, followed by the courier companies such as FedEx, Purolator, etc. I will never purchase anything again where UPS is used, as I have been burned too often by unexpectedly high customs brokerage fees they charge on top of their fairly high shipping costs.
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I was at our local post office lately and they had the flat rate shipping boxes on display. The large flat rate box was $16.85 to ship anything that fits inside anywhere in the USA. To ship to Canada, same box - $53.95!

So, regarding my example above, why the huge bump in cost using a US post office to Canada post office routing? Is it customs or high shipping within Canada?

Would it cost a similar amount to ship from Canada to a point in the USA?
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I found sending things First Class to Canada about the same as to US. The "flat rate" and Priority mail are for some reason are ridiculously priced.
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then ad this to the mix.

'Country pricing' a cause of Canada-U.S. price gaps - Canada - CBC News
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Maybe I'm just dense, but I still don't get it.

Seems like using the postal system it shouldn't cost and arm and a leg to ship into Canada.
I agree. I don't get it either. Usually the cost for most things in the US is lower, so you can make up the postal cost. So you pay $10 less for the item but $5 extra for the shipping. You are still $5 ahead.

A lot of people have talked about brokerage fees here. I have had similar experiences with this. UPS has ripped me off with brokerage fees, and generally I refuse to do business with them. Brokerage fees are usually added after the item has been shipped though. They are IN ADDITION to the cost to mail the item in the first place. Usually you pay these when the package arrives at your doorstep.

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