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Old 08-17-2013, 10:06 AM   #1
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The PO of the Scamp I just bought made some "adjustments" (hard to call them modifications) to the electrical system. In short (no pun intended) it looks like he simply removed the 12-volt system and wired the whole thing for 110/115v shore power. He installed a small 110v refrigerator, which means of course nothing will work unless I'm plugged in, so food isn't going to stay cold while I'm driving.

My dilemma is where to start? I'm on a low-to-no budget plan here, and investing in a 3-way fridge and paying someone to rewire and set up the propane lines would kill me. What I have to do anyway is get the wiring sorted out properly with a battery and charge controller. If I get lucky and find some equipment used, I may try to add a 100 watt solar panel and inverter. So my question is, does anyone out there use a fridge that runs on 12v dc only? There are some nice compact models out there, and that would take care of the driving issue.

Or should I just get an icebox? Seriously. Any thoughts and advice greatly appreciated.
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Old 08-17-2013, 10:30 AM   #2
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On no budget, your best bet is to use ice to augment the refrigerator while driving. Some here have ingenious solutions like pre-freezing square containers to fit in the fridge.

For a small amount of money, you can buy an inverter and attach it to the trailer battery, then run a heavy electrical cable from the tow vehicle battery to maintain the charge level. Plug the refrigerator into the inverter. Rabbit (Jack) has done some extensive testing on running a refrigerator on an inverter and may shed some light on a recommended size and brand.

While boon docking, the inverter is not going to work without a significant solar panel set up.
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We freeze water bottles, pack in refrigerator/freezer, meat still frozen, refrigerator section still cold after 13/14 hour trip to Wyoming @ 70-75 (that's degrees not MPH, wouldn't want to start something)
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Would've been nice to tell you that before you bought!

IIWM I would look for a used three way. You may end up with propane down the road.
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Most refrigerators are insulated well enough to stay cold, at cold enough, for several hours, even a day or two, depending on how hot it is outside. I never never travel with fridge running. Running on the battery is too hard on the charging system or will run the battery down. Running propane, to me, isn't safe and I don't have a long enough extension cord.

So unless you're traveling across the country in August and only stopping long enough to sleep and not plugged in, it's probably not worth worrying about.
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He did tell me, and I accepted it knowing I'd have to sort something out! It's nice to hear the "don't worry about it" stuff - and good to know I'm not the only one using electric. Freezing water in containers is an excellent idea - thanks.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:37 PM   #7
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There are some nice 12v fridge/freezers out there when you get ready. Engel is probably the least power hungry - but the most expensive. Right now, I have a Whynter. I uses 5A @ 12V when running and is half the cost of an Engel.
I don't know where you're located but I have a fridge from my '77 Trillium you can have free if you're in the neighborhood. The propane doesn't work but the AC/DC does.
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To add to the possibilities, I picked up a used 3 way fridge for $50 from an old popup. They are frequently parted out when the top rots out.
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Thanks for the offer - I'm in Maine, though.
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Ah - yes, the possibilities list grows. Good idea!
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The timing and price are right on this one.
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f...tor-60389.html
You could possibly even tie it in with a meet or someone attending the meet might be able to bring it back part way.
For example the Niagara, MI Algonac and Ohio meets are all coming up shortly. Shipping may not be as expensive as you think.
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Further to Byron's post above, a full fridge (or freezer) heats up more slowly than an almost empty one, so if you keep your fridge fairly loaded, it will better maintain its temperature while you are travelling with the fridge off.
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We had a 12volt only fridge. The cooling coils where around the metal freezer (yes it was old) We would pack freezer mostly with blue ice packs, they would hold temp well. On 28 hour trip to Colo. we started with the meat frozen, everything cold and arrived with ice crystals still in the meat.

Would re-freeze when we spent a night with shore power or if I was willing to use the battery.

Scamp store sells an ice box, have been posts by people who installed with extra insulation and found they could get 4 days on a block of ice. Have to call to find out dimensions.
http://www.scamptrailers.com/parts-store/appliances/ice-box-detail.html

Not sure if new ice box at $115 would be a better deal than putting the money toward a used fridge. That would be your call.
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While an ice box in the trailer is convenient, a Coleman Extreme cooler might be a better choice. Raz
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