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Old 08-31-2016, 01:47 PM   #15
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And...after about 48 hours battery is dead again. Can't find the converter. Can't find any wires disconnected. Anyone else have any ideas?
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Old 08-31-2016, 03:47 PM   #16
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And here's another case where the best advice is take it to an RV Shop and let the professionals trouble shoot and repair. 12 VDC is just as dangerous as 120 VAC. (fires are common when wiring systems are messed with, without knowledge)
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Old 08-31-2016, 04:17 PM   #17
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And...after about 48 hours battery is dead again. Can't find the converter. Can't find any wires disconnected. Anyone else have any ideas?

Lorie,
I would suspect the converter is under the driver's side dinette bench in close proximity to where the shore power cord enters the trailer.


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Old 08-31-2016, 04:46 PM   #18
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Where will I find the converter?
It will be inside one our your hatches - depends on what layout you have- either under one at the very rear (thats where the one on mine was) or under one of the side dinette seats. Its either not plugged in or you have blown some fuses that are inside of its case.


Question to forum members. The convertor on my 92 Scamp was hard wired - no plug in. What year did Scamp stop hard wiring them in?
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And here's another case where the best advice is take it to an RV Shop and let the professionals trouble shoot and repair. 12 VDC is just as dangerous as 120 VAC. (fires are common when wiring systems are messed with, without knowledge)
While based on the OP's knowledge of the trailers system, simple based on questions asked, I would say thats a good suggestion should there is in fact something wrong with the wiring/converter.

But lets be frank do you really think someone needs to pay an RV shop to find and possible do nothing more than plug in their converter or replace a fuse? a little over kill don't you think

We all have to start somewhere and figuring out what your convertor looks like and its location is something every new owner should do.
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Lorie raise your cushions up at the table area and you should see a wooden cover. Mine is on the sink/drivers side. You can easily look down in the hole and find the square bright metal box that is about roughly 8" square maybe 5-6" thick. That is your converter and it will plug into your power panel. Most likely the plug has came out and is NOT charging your battery.

This has been suggested several times and that's why I tried to include a location AND somewhat simple description of it. For safety purposes, unplug your Scamp from shore power while doing this. I'm saying that JUST in case something else should go awry. Then plug your Scamp in and if you see/hear anything out of the way....unless your pump comes on or something, unplug it immediately and take it to a shop!

My vote is 99% that the converter is unplugged or bad.
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Old 09-02-2016, 10:04 AM   #21
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And here's another case where the best advice is take it to an RV Shop and let the professionals trouble shoot and repair. 12 VDC is just as dangerous as 120 VAC. (fires are common when wiring systems are messed with, without knowledge)
Byron, I would hate to take it to a repair shop to find that it simply came unplugged. Ectrical system repairs will definitely not be attempted since I am not even familiar with the part. Thanks for the post though. Safety is important.
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Old 09-10-2016, 04:33 PM   #22
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Narrowed it down, hopefully

The battery won't stay charged and it's a pretty new 12v deep cell. The battery reads around 6.13v and will not operate anything at that level. When I jump the battery with the vehicle (and then battery reads closer to the expected 12v), everything works for a short time, with or without shore power. However, shore power is not KEEPING the battery charged.

I am trying to isolate my converter problem and avoid any unnecessary repair costs if possible. I have inspected all areas of my converter and ac/dc items (all fuses and connections appear intact) and have it narrowed down to what I think are two possibilities. I have labeled them as #1 & #2 in the picture.

For #1, what size fuze should be in this American brand cs2000xl converter? I cannot find this information in the converter owners manual or the Scamp owners manual. There was no fuze in this spot and therefore the charger may never have been working at all. If this is the problem, I am surprised the battery lasted through 3 days of camping with considerable use of 12v appliances.

For #2, does the little green knob look toasted to anyone else? What is this 'knob' and what does it do? It doesn't look recently toasted. It looks like it's been that way for a while. Can't find any diagrams to educate me on the parts of this board.

As I mentioned before, all of the 120v appliances work (with shore power), but none of the 12v appliances work (with or without shore power) unless the battery is connected and fully charged.

As always thanks in advance for all of your experiencee and willingness to help.
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# 1... I would call Scamp and ask. Might take some effort but they should know what they put in. If that is the main AC supply and it appears that it might be, that might tell you what size fuse.. but I know nothing about this brand (and can't trace the wires in a photo).

# 2.. That appears to be a capacitor, and they do "burn up" sometimes. It is very possible that your converter is toast but checking with a meter is needed. There are some online guides on trouble shooting converters that might help but its best to have some experience with them before getting in too deep.

#3.. OK, I know you had no number three.. but I suspect your battery will never hold a full charge again. Its been over discharged.

PS.. coming from not even knowing where the converter is, to this point, is quite an accomplishment.. kudos. But do be careful with electricity.
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Gordon, I find it interesting that Scamp used a converter that is plugged in, rather than hard wired (mine is) to the 110VAC. Is it original? All travel trailers present a high vibration environment and all equipment inside should be designed for it. The wire-ties are so handy for something like this and many other things. Every camper needs to have a bundle of those.
Some converters come with a plug and others are integrated and hardwired.
Early Scamps (when they had converters) were plugged in, for years they used a hardwired integrated converter, now they are back to using a plug-in converter which is separate from the fuse panel. It is commonly considered a superior converter but I am still using an American which is integrated and works very well.
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Some converters come with a plug and others are integrated and hardwired.
Early Scamps (when they had converters) were plugged in, for years they used a hardwired integrated converter, now they are back to using a plug-in converter which is separate from the fuse panel. It is commonly considered a superior converter but I am still using an American which is integrated and works very well.
Floyd, Could you open the front of your converter panel and tell me what size barrel fuse is in the lower front of yours? I cannot find any documentation that states the correct size for that little glass barrel fuse. See the photo I posted earlier with the #1 arrow pointing to it. This would be a great help! Thanks
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Not Floyd but until he comes to the rescue.....

Is there not a wiring paper diagram located on the inside of the converter that tells you?

According to the American manual in the documents center here the American CX2000xl has Input Voltage 120volts 8 amps
Output Voltage 12 volt 20 amps

Depending on if if that fuse is inline on your input or if its on your output feed it will dictate the size of fuse.
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Byron, I would hate to take it to a repair shop to find that it simply came unplugged. Ectrical system repairs will definitely not be attempted since I am not even familiar with the part. Thanks for the post though. Safety is important.
If you can't tell if it is plugged in or not plugged then you need to find a friend right there on site to help you look and see what is what. Or go to an RV shop and request help as well as having them instruct you what it is all about.

Some people learn quickly from minimal instructions in forums but for many people, especially someone with no electrical experience, one-on-one teaching right there in your trailer will work best. A good RV repair center might have the time to show you what to look for. It is OK to pay a teacher to educate you
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Floyd, Could you open the front of your converter panel and tell me what size barrel fuse is in the lower front of yours? I cannot find any documentation that states the correct size for that little glass barrel fuse. See the photo I posted earlier with the #1 arrow pointing to it. This would be a great help! Thanks
The glass "barrel fuse" has the size stamped into the metal ends. FYI it's called a buss fuse.
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