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Old 10-24-2013, 10:49 AM   #15
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Thank you all for helping these newbies through their maiden voyage. My questions:
1). How do I use the water pump? When I did not have it on I had good pressure at the sink. Would I run it for the shower?

You are connected to City water with a hose so you do not need the water pump for anything. It should not be on. Thats the switch by the electrical outlet. Only need to turn on the water pump if you are using water from the fresh water holding tank. You need to fill the tank using the outside filler port in order to do that. When hooked up to City Water the water system totally bypasses the tank and pump and everything will work without the pump. If you have a shower then you *may* need to turn on the floor pump for that in order to get the water pumped back to the grey water tank - there should be a separate switch in the bathroom for that. Again only turn on that pump if you have water going through the floor drain.

2) turning on the hot water. Is this switch or knob in the louvered panel with the switch for my fridge? I am on 30 amp right now.

Did they not even give you the manuals for all your appliances? The hot water tank is going to be in a different outside compartment than your fridge. It will normally be on the same side of the trailer that the sink is located. On the outside drop down panel there may be instructions for starting it stuck to the inside of the panel. Without knowing if its an electric or propane heater or both or if it has an electric start or if its one you need to manually light (as mine is) it would be hard to tell you how to light it correctly. Note that when connected to City Water unless the trailer has a bypass system the hot water tank will normally fill up automatically. Do not turn on the tank unless you are sure it has water in it. You should release the pressure valve and have water come out of it to be sure it is filled - also helps to let air pockets out of it to make sure it fills up all the way.

3) my sweetie uses the sink like at home. How do I know when the grey tank is filled up without looking? I would just lie to know if it would pool in the sink.

Unfortunately laying under the trailer will not tell you. Unless Scamp has put in different holding tanks that you can see through. Its one of those things that without a tank monitor that you pretty will have to guess at based on experience. Harder to learn/know when running off city water and having an endless supply of water but easier if running off the fresh water tanks - I know for example if I gone through 2 1/2 full tanks of fresh water I am getting real close to needing to drain off the grey water tank. Worst case scenario is that if you have a shower pan you will walk into the bathroom one night and your feet will get wet as the grey water tank has backed up into the shower pan. Or at least thats been my experience with an older Scamp.


4) same question for the black water tank. I do know to flush the black water tank and then move the hose to the grey water to help clean it.
Donna, I did not let them install the stinky slinky tube. It's in the closet until I install a larger one.
Not sure what you mean by moving the hose to the grey water tank. When you flush the tank you should not need to do anything more - no moving of hoses etc - all the water generated when you flush the toilet goes into the blank tank. If you flush the tank & keep the pedal up or down for a moment you should be able to see the water level in it. But yes when you dump out the tanks do the black water tank first then the grey water in order to help with cleaning out the slinky hose.

Hope that helps somewhat.
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:06 AM   #16
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As Donna mentioned, that switch is the pump. There are two water systems , pressure coming in from the street (the hose) and the pump pulling water out of the fresh water tank. My guess is that you were attached to the water hose (so had water pressure) and no water in the fresh water tank. If you are attached to city water, then you do not need the pump, you will only need that if you are not on city water (the hose) AND you have water in the fresh water tank.

I had the same "humming noise". Because I have a water leak, I had emptied my fresh water tank, and I accidentally hit the switch during the night. It really isn't a stellar location for the switch.
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:41 AM   #17
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Looks like you're getting most of your questions answered as best they can. In the paper you were given when the trailer was delivered should have been all the manuals for the appliances, hot water heater, refrigerator, etc. None of them are very thick, but operating information is there in most cases with some pictures and diagrams.

The refrigerator controls are only accessible from the outside, there's pane outside that opens, I believe the newer trailers has two latches. Inside you will probably find two knobs, a red button, a large rocker switch and small rocker switch. Since you're plugged into shore power the larger rocker switch and the knob closest to are the what you need to turn on. Make sure small rocker switch is off the knob by the red button is off. Set knob by the large rocker switch to mid range. It could take up to 8 hours for the refrigerator get cold. The manual will explain the rest.
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BTW, the refri is not a compressor type which means that it is always on, which means that it drops the temperature by X degrees which amount depends on the rotation of the switch. Not so obvious, it ALSO depends on the season. If it is set to reduce ambient by 40 degrees and the OUTSIDE of the fridge is at 80 degrees, then the inside temperature will be 40 degrees. However as winter comes on and the OUTSIDE temp of the refri drops to 50, the inside will start freezing.

Bear in mind that the refri is kind of half in and half out of the interior of the caravan (I love that word). The back is in a compartment exposed to the outside world temperature.

Anyway, just remember that as the seasons change, the temperature inside of the refri will change as well, tracking the outside temperature.
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:19 PM   #19
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A small indoor outdoor wireless weather station works well for keeping an eye on the actual fridge temps. I picked one up one with a small sending unit (about 2" square) that I put in the fridge. The main unit is on the wall in the kitchen area and it tells me the temp in the fridge as well as in the trailer itself. The read out unit on mine is also pretty small - only about 3" by 3" - a bit hard to find the ones with the small read out units as many have way more functions so need a bigger screen. The one I have looks a bit like this one: EBay Wireless Temperature Sensor Indoor / Outdoor Thermometer Weather Station Clock. Cheap but does the trick.
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:31 PM   #20
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Good one Raz!! I got the fridge to work. Now, just figuring out how to work the hot water heater.
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Old 10-24-2013, 12:58 PM   #21
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If you have left your TV attached to the trailer and you have a Prodigy or some other like technology brake controller which probes the brake connection every few seconds, it will display the symtoms described.
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On one of our early Scamp trips to a park with hookups we had been using water like we do at home. The last day of our trip, the sink started to back up.

That was the only indication we've ever gotten that our grey tank is full; ever since then we've been much more careful with our water usage. It takes a little practice, but the two of us can easily go a week without having to dump the grey tank.

We have a privacy/shower closet, but do not shower in our Scamp, not even when we have full hookups. Not only does showering use (literally) buckets of water, the Scamp's 6-gallon water heater wouldn't support a long shower, and showering makes for a wet toilet and damp trailer. We prefer to use camp showers or do a sponge bath and wash our hair at the sink. That keeps water consumption to just one quart of water, which is very handy when we're boondocking.

When we boondock, we know that we can refill our (upgraded) 17 gallon fresh tank using jerry cans once before having to worry that our grey tank might fill to overflowing. (Our grey tank won't hold 34 gallons, but it never quite fills all the way, and some of the water goes to the black tank when we flush our toilets.)

I'm sure you'll both learn to cope. It didn't take us all that long to do so, and now we hardly think about it at all.
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On one of our early Scamp trips to a park with hookups we had been using water like we do at home. The last day of our trip, the sink started to back up.

That was the only indication we've ever gotten that our grey tank is full; ever since then we've been much more careful with our water usage. It takes a little practice, but the two of us can easily go a week without having to dump the grey tank.

We have a privacy/shower closet, but do not shower in our Scamp, not even when we have full hookups. Not only does showering use (literally) buckets of water, the Scamp's 6-gallon water heater wouldn't support a long shower, and showering makes for a wet toilet and damp trailer. We prefer to use camp showers or do a sponge bath and wash our hair at the sink. That keeps water consumption to just one quart of water, which is very handy when we're boondocking.

When we boondock, we know that we can refill our (upgraded) 17 gallon fresh tank using jerry cans once before having to worry that our grey tank might fill to overflowing. (Our grey tank won't hold 34 gallons, but it never quite fills all the way, and some of the water goes to the black tank when we flush our toilets.)

I'm sure you'll both learn to cope. It didn't take us all that long to do so, and now we hardly think about it at all.
Your conjecture is pretty much contrary to our experience.
Our little water heater has never run out of hot water, in fact I have taken a full shower a day after the water heater was shut off without any problem.
My wife and I have gone at least five days without filling the graywater tank on several occasions and we each shower every day.
With only mild conservation we commonly go 3-4 days without refilling the freshwater tank including using the toilet and sink. Of course our freshwater tank has only half the capacity of the gray.
We find it easier to maintain the shower/toilet closet, than to use the campground facilities and of course, when boondocking we have a shower available.We've never had a damp trailer or left a wet toilet or bathroom in the wake of a shower.
We bought our trailer to get the bathroom/shower and we are still pleased with our choice, eventhough we "loved" our LoveBug.
Some folks won't cook/eat in their trailer for fear of the mess, maybe some won't sleep in their trailer to avoid making the bed.
Pretty soon you could obviate the purchase of a travel trailer altogether!
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Here's a possible answer to a wet toilet. I had a cabover long ago with a huge wet bath in it. We would put a large plastic trash bag over the toilet during any shower use. Just took it off afterwards and it was dry. Of course everything else was wet but that was taken care of with a towel.
I've never had a problem with running out of hot water with the six gallon heaters. Even with two people in a row taking a shower. Wet down and shut off the hand held showerhead. Soap up and scrub and then rinse off. Easy and only down maybe two gallons of water. I even had the kids doing this at home just cuz
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Floyd I agree 100% with your last two comments as it reminds me of my Grandparents and other folks that put plastic on the couch and car seats to save it from wearing out. Dang, it was terrible to sit on but was great for the next owner. Personally I want to enjoy it being new, take overall good care of the whole thing and pass it on at a later date for someone else to enjoy. Geee, that's been bugging me for 50 years......wonder if my Grandparents ever wondered why I sat on the floor?
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