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Old 09-30-2013, 05:22 PM   #29
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Yes, they are, however some models have some very handy features. For example, some can sync with your generator. Useful for high starting load devices such as an Air Conditioner running from a Honda 2K. As the generator starts to stall, the inverter kicks in & provides up to 2K worth of short term additional power. Since it is the starting load that kills the Honda generator, it is a practical (but expensive) solution.

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Old 09-30-2013, 05:30 PM   #30
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Looks to me like the Magnum products are called "Inverter/Chargers" and are designed for charging the banks of 8D batteries often seen in Class "A" behemoths, which will also have large scale generators as well, making a converter, at least as we know it, unnecessary.

But the size, weight and price sort of make them a moot point for any FGRV's on this site, especially when the question is related to low cost simple answers.

And, of course, the OP can do what ever they want. However, by the tone of the post(s) one might suspect that they are not yet very schooled in the day to day skills of RV building, much less RV life. I'm just trying to help by offering what I have learned so, maybe, someone else may not have to also learn the hard way.

Answering the question not asked can often save the day.....

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Old 09-30-2013, 09:05 PM   #31
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If you have a separate 110V system fed through a small breaker panel and a separate 12V system you don't need an inverter/convertor.

For much less than the price of an inverter/convertor you can install a more than adequate Solar system to supply ALL of your 12V needs.

I don't know of any "Inverter Converters in the RV marketplace. There are Converters and there are Inverters.

Going Disneyesque/piecemeal, by the time you add up a separate ac panel, a converter of some sort, a fuse panel, and some sort of a decent and safe battery charger, you will be right up there with the PD-4045 in price and it may not be as safe and/or work as well.

That said, a PD-4045 can be bought for under $175, providing AC distribution, dc power when plugged in and a 3 stage battery charger, and you don't always have to park in the sun.....

Plus one should always think of resale value. Doing it right the first time is always the way to go.....

You missed the slash which to me means a convertor OR convertor as some newbies do not understand the difference
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:11 PM   #32
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What exactly is wrong with the O.P. just getting the trailer wired just like he wants to?

There is little about this project that if done as he asks about will stand in his way down the road if he decides that he wants to add a Battery and charging system.

There is also a lot to be said for keeping things simple and it should work fine for the exact purpose he has in mind.
For starters, rewiring the whole trailer and replacing every light fixture in it...
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:30 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by Bob Miller View Post

Again, Read, Read and Read before going any further.....

Trailer batteries are usually deep cell batteries, either group 24 or 27, and cost about $100. They will also require a charger for that application to avoid overcharging and damaging the battery. The afore mentioned PD-4045 takes care of this as well.

You might want to leave the term inverter out of your questions until you are sure you want one and how big it will have to be.

FWIW: an inverter big enough to power an 800 watt microwave, will kill off a battery in about 2 bags popcorn.
Thanks, the popcorn illustration had me laughing good.
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:36 AM   #34
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For starters, rewiring the whole trailer and replacing every light fixture in it...
He is already starting exactly this project anyway! That was the point of his starting this thread.

So lets say he does wire for outlets and lights for 120vac and then decides at some later time he does really want 12vdc lights anyway.

Either way he just runs a few new 12vdc wires and is good to go,no huge deal and he gets what he wants now too.
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:45 AM   #35
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I want to thank every one of you for a terrific laugh, as well as valuable information. What stands out is the level of knowledge and differences when it comes to any individual project.
I am a "green horn" in things "RV", I have never stayed at a KOA site, and the most I have ever paid for staying at any individual campsite is 23.00 at Lake Lanier in Georgia, than a campsite in Destin for 17.00 a night.
So all of this is quite new to me.
But I will use the advice I received to upgrade the Scamp the way I planned but I think it is good advise to go with the PD 4045 for future upgrades should I think I need it.

I really mean this "you all gave me a great laugh along with invaluable advice", thank you all so much for all your help.

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