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Old 04-15-2015, 04:15 PM   #15
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Thanks Byron and Steve. The wiring that I did got me home. I like the junction box, and have SAE grade wire in a variety of colors here at home. I had intended to redo the wiring before I pull the trailer again! Next time with a junction box!

I worked as a plumber sweating copper joints and made thousands of leak proof joints, I know about cold joints and how to prevent them. When I finish soldering a joint, I extend the shrink wrap a couple of inches to stiffen the connection and protect the system from vibration. The problem exists of wires breaking at the end of any connection where the wire is stiffened. I have actually had more problem with wire breakage with crimp connectors.

Dennis, tell me how many solder connection you can find in tow vehicle.
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I will choose to agree to disagree with you on this issue. I concede that there are no soldered joints used in building automobiles. I contend that there may be more than one reason for this, including the fact that cars are built on low bid. With unskilled labor. Little skill required to push plugs together.
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Old 04-15-2015, 05:09 PM   #17
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Dennis, tell me how many solder connection you can find in tow vehicle.
Anything electronic. Radio, on board computers, LED light assemblies, displays,..........
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:08 PM   #18
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Anything electronic. Radio, on board computers, LED light assemblies, displays,..........
You are right of course, and there's several reasons for this. Reliability is one.
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Old 04-15-2015, 06:40 PM   #19
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Soldering properly crimped connections is just adding a pair of suspenders to the belt one is already wearing.
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:13 PM   #20
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And it is not a bad idea. Good aircraft quality crimp connectors run over a dollar each and require a $175 crimper.
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And it is not a bad idea. Good aircraft quality crimp connectors run over a dollar each and require a $175 crimper.
Somehow that's too much to pay to prevent another fire?
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Old 04-15-2015, 08:52 PM   #22
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Great solution, junction box. I actually bookmarked this a number of years ago. Thinking if I ever wanted to add wiring to my Scamp, I would need a solution other than just tapping into some wire.

So very glad you got home safely. There is no small fire when it comes to an all-molded towable. They are all serious
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Great solution, junction box. I actually bookmarked this a number of years ago. Thinking if I ever wanted to add wiring to my Scamp, I would need a solution other than just tapping into some wire.

So very glad you got home safely. There is no small fire when it comes to an all-molded towable. They are all serious
Yea, Donna, I felt very fortunate. A friends Stick Built burned to the frame due to an electrical fire.
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The buck a connection is not too much for a good connection. It is a little more than most a u to parts house connectors is all. If you don't use them where the wire is crimped and the instalation is also crimped then soldering the barrel and heat shrink over is a good idea.

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At Granger's, the common, and more than adequate, 3M 14/16 GA Butt splices are $27.25/100 or abt $.27 each, a lot less than $1 each and I am fairly sure that the same item is available on Amazon at even a better price.


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Yea, Donna, I felt very fortunate. A friends Stick Built burned to the frame due to an electrical fire.
And I watched as a $100,000 motorhome burned to the ground due to a kitchen fire, does that mean we should stop cooking? LOL
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Great solution, junction box. I actually bookmarked this a number of years ago. Thinking if I ever wanted to add wiring to my Scamp, I would need a solution other than just tapping into some wire.

So very glad you got home safely. There is no small fire when it comes to an all-molded towable. They are all serious
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Thomas & Betts (T& and 3M make very high quality lugs of all shapes and sizes. I would get the nylon jacketed lugs so when you use your Thomas & Betts Stakon crimping tool (Sta-Kon Crimping Tool) it wont pinch through the nylon insulation. You can then seal it up with heat shrink or wrap it with a few wraps of 3M "88" electrical tape. If you go the junction box route which makes it handy to access your connections at a later date you can mount a terminal strip (Panel Mount Terminal Blocks) and use fork lugs. Any time you make splices they should be accessable and there is nothing more accessable than a junction box.
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