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Old 02-26-2018, 11:27 AM   #29
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Sounds like good advice.
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Old 02-26-2018, 02:02 PM   #30
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Good thread, looking for ideas.

I will be deploying four flexible panels on the ground (propped at an appropriate angle) this summer. First time for this as I had panels on the roof of my last (long) trailer. This one has almost no roof space and I want to put them out where the sun is.

I was thinking of making a cable to run through the grommets that are on the sides of the flexible panels out of some thin, stranded steel cable like this

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Blue-Hawk-1...e-Foot/4222649

The idea would to have it run along with the solar wires and lock to the frame of the camper.

A motivated thief with tools and time would take whatever I have however I secure it.

This would just be to dissuade the easy snatch and grab that is becoming a fact of life with the opioid crisis. Last summer a family member lost the aluminum mast to their small sail boat in the middle of the night, and it was parked on the trailer within 100 feet of their campsite. The Sheriff explained it is becoming all too common as the disease spreads through rural areas.

This would be my version of the lock-less cable posted earlier, but much longer and will require some fabrication.
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:10 PM   #31
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Thanks everyone for taking the time to answer. On the plus side it seems that no one chimed in with a theft report.

I think I am going to choose movable panels with a simple attached cable. I live in NH and most of the time I camp in a place with lots of shade so needing to move them around at least a bit is going to be a necessity a lot of the time.

Thanks again for all the great advise and a reminder to check on my insurance!

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Old 02-27-2018, 01:37 PM   #32
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When you have something recognized as valuable, it's just common sense to protect and secure it. So I salute your use of a cable. Those who take no precautions? Your panels seem pretty inviting.

I'm wondering if the community of thieves has failed to recognize that panels are like 100 dollar bills lying around. Or, could it be panels are hard to convert to cash by reselling?

Someone should invent or market an alarm that sounds when the solar panel's charge circuit is disconnected. It might require a key to disarm. This is very simple, and is used in electronics displays.
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Old 02-27-2018, 01:48 PM   #33
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Where are you going to attach this security cable to the solar panel? My panels are framed in aluminum and the only easy thing to do is wrap the cable through the stand, which can be easily defeated ( damaging the solar panel ).
Sometimes you just have to put your faith in your fellow man.
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Old 02-27-2018, 02:17 PM   #34
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Where are you going to attach this security cable to the solar panel? My panels are framed in aluminum..
You got a drill?

I put 22 holes in the alum frame for the hinge alone. Planning on four more for handles. These Renogy panels already had a few holes in the frame that I have used for a padlock in the past. But if they didn't I could make one.

Sometimes you have to put your faith in your fellow man, and other times you got to void the warranty.
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Old 02-27-2018, 02:51 PM   #35
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I live in a "nice" urban Denver neighborhood, but daily we have people stealing packages, breaking into houses and cars to steal anything not nailed down. They are pros with lookouts, who know how to case a property. Usually in broad daylight.

I wish it were not so. My source for hearing about these incidents is neighbors on the Nextdoor app. I also have experience in security.

Search Electronics Display Alarms and you can see that retailers also face a challenge of theft. In many cases, the cables are through a loop attached via a really strong adhesive. Perhaps the adhesive some here use to attach their roof solar panels.

I get it that campgounds are different. But many campgrounds empty out during the day. Thieves take advantage of opportunity, & law enforcement is far away. It only makes sense that you will experience no horse theft, until the day your entire horse is missing.

I wish you all well in the full enjoyment of the toys you've worked hard to earn.
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:16 AM   #36
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My Escape 21 was ordered with 2 160 watt roof mounted panels. I did a modification while at Quartzsite so they can be tilted towards the back of the trailer. Will do a better modification when I get back to NY that will let them tilt either direction perpendicular to the trailer length.

Went from 4-5 amps in the morning to 12 - 16 amps.
I'll be interested in what you come up with for tilting then to the side!
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I'll be interested in what you come up with for tilting then to the side!
It won't make much of a change in output, but it will give me more flexibility in site alignment.
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:58 AM   #38
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I lock my Honda generators to an axle. While camping in Co. and away from the campground, a couple went to a camper next to us and told them that we had told them they could use them for a few hours. My neighboring campers didn't have the key, but they notified the camp host, but by then they had taken off.
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Now that you have your solar panel chained , cabled , bolted, welded to everything in sight to prevent theft how are you going to prevent physical damage . A kid with a large rock or a bat or a can of spray paint can render your solar panel useless in seconds.
To what point must you go before paranoia is totally obliterated?
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:50 AM   #40
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agree

steve I agree now they are out scouting to steal mower peoples trailers lots of good stuff in them. they steal them right out off people driveways.

generators and all this outside stuff good for quick drug money!

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Now that you have your solar panel chained , cabled , bolted, welded to everything in sight to prevent theft how are you going to prevent physical damage . A kid with a large rock or a bat or a can of spray paint can render your solar panel useless in seconds.
To what point must you go before paranoia is totally obliterated?
It's about simple, common sense measures, not paranoia.

A cable to a solid object prevents petty, opportunistic theft. I like Tom's suggestion of a strong adhesive to attach a loop. Putting panels at the back of your campsite or otherwise away from where people walk might help a 10-year old boy avoid the temptation of testing his aim.

At home I have locks on my doors and I padlock the gate when we're away from home, but I have not put bars on all the windows. Same principle.

Of course you won't stop a determined thief or a malicious vandal. That's where insurance comes in, but they do expect you to take sensible precautions.
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It's about simple, common sense measures, not paranoia.

A cable to a solid object prevents petty, opportunistic theft. I like Tom's suggestion of a strong adhesive to attach a loop. Putting panels at the back of your campsite or otherwise away from where people walk might help a 10-year old boy avoid the temptation of testing his aim.

At home I have locks on my doors and I padlock the gate when we're away from home, but I have not put bars on all the windows. Same principle.

Of course you won't stop a determined thief or a malicious vandal. That's where insurance comes in, but they do expect you to take sensible precautions.
To me when the cost and time spent to prevent something from being damaged or stolen exceeds the cost of the item you are trying to protect then we are entering the realm of paranoia .
Everyone has their own interpretation of reasonable.
I take what I consider reasonable precautions but according to this thread I am well below the standards others think are necessary.
In all my years of camping , the only thing I have ever had stolen was a couple cans of beer , they were not worth $500 worth of security measures nor losing sleep over

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