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Old 04-26-2014, 04:01 PM   #15
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Scamp wiring diagram from the page at this link that also has a brief discussion of the system. Presence or not of a given component doesn't affect/change the layout.

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Old 04-26-2014, 04:19 PM   #16
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That was exactly what I needed to see and read! Thank you.

Now, if there is no power converter everything is just run off the battery and then 120 breakers and everything running on 120 need to have shore power to work? Can you tap in and put a converter anywhere in camper than works best so long as you can run a 120 line to it? As in under the front bunk would be perfect for us... I could get the 120 from fluorescent light ( mrs has "other ideas" for that spot )?? Sound logical or am I not getting yet?

I'd prefer if possible to not replace everything...
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Old 04-26-2014, 04:22 PM   #17
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You can put the converter wherever you want to locate it in the trailer, just so long as its wired as shown.

Be warned that depending on what one you buy, they can be a bit noisy...not sure I'd want a cooling fan running directly under my bed!
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Old 04-26-2014, 04:33 PM   #18
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Have any suggestions for a quality converter?
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Old 04-26-2014, 04:47 PM   #19
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Since I'm still using the original converter that came with my '78 Trillium, I'll leave recommendations for units actually built in this millenium to those more expert than I.

I'm sure somebody'll be chiming in here shortly- good luck to you!
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The white "module" in the second photograph is an electronic igniter for the hot water heater when operating on propane.
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Old 04-26-2014, 10:03 PM   #21
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Bob Miller suggested a Progressive Dynamics model back on page 1, That specific model did not have any reviews on Amazon but a related model from same company did probably worth checking over the reviews. Can often learn a lot from what people have to say who have installed one. Most of the PD models appear popular and well reviewed.

http://www.amazon.com/Progressive-Dy...4XMP7H3WEXF633

Looks like this one gets hard wired in for AC input which may offer more flexibility than one that plugs into an outlet.
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Have any suggestions for a quality converter?
I have installed seven Progressive-Dynamics PD-4045 converters, three in my personal FGRV's and four for customers.

As an all-in-one package for AC & DC power, as well as having a built in smart battery charger, I know of nothing in the same size and price range that can compare for ease of installation and quality.
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http://www.appliedgmc.com/images/PD9200_Manual.pdf

Looking at the manual for this converter and cross referencing it with the wiring diagram of scamp that was posted earlier...
I don't see where the wiring rainbow from the scamp is being hooked into the converter like the scamp schematic shows. Anyone hooked this variety of converter and shed some light?

Ps. Don't worry too much.. One of my good buddies is an electrician and will help me install it. But I like to understand it for myself. Thanks!
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Looking at the manual for this converter and cross referencing it with the wiring diagram of scamp that was posted earlier...
The manual for the one you posted shows the converter and distribution panels as separate units, in the scamp they are combined.

Much like the one Roger uses: http://www.progressivedyn.com/pdfs/1...ish%20Only.pdf

Do you have a distribution panel already or are you going to need to install one?
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Ahhhhh... I was wondering what the schematic meant by distribution center (said DC) and without giving it much thought I read AC (as in the breaker box.... )...
I have no distribution panel... Just rainbow wires and battery wires running in and all through inside. And then a breaker box running the 120 stuff. As far as I can tell these are wired as two separate system in our scamp with no other hardware or electronics on board.

So, then I need something like the 4200 series progressive dynamics unit.... Do you remove exiting breaker box and just build a cabinet for it in the same location? Or can it be installed elsewhere? Curious because the rainbow wires don't all run all the way under sink where breaker box is.. Just trying to avoid ripping all wires out I guess
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A converter is a combination charger/ DC power supply. Do you camp mostly with electrical hook ups for days on end. Then a converter is nice to have. If not then a good battery charger will do. A battery charger ($50) will charge your battery before you head out and let you maintain your battery between trips. The tow will charge it in between camp sites. A solar set up may be a better place to put your money. If my PD 4045 died today I would not replace it. Also if you've not done it yet, switch to LED lights. They use about 20% of the power an incandescent bulb does which equates to less discharge on the battery. Good luck and enjoy your project. Raz
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A solar set up may be a better place to put your money. If my PD 4045 died today I would not replace it.
That is an interesting comment Raz. My converter is on its way out and I was thinking of going with something like the PD 4045. Ideally I don't need something with that much power and would like to find something with the solar integrated. Sort of an all in one package relocated under the front bench.

So how would you do it then? I've got the solar to install. I currently use an external battery charger, the one for my vehicles. I don't like the current position of the converter at the rear bench where body parts inadvertantly hit switches.
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So I could leave everything as is and just get a good battery charger setup and be good to go today?????
. We don't mind if we camp with power or just boondock so maybe that's the way to go until we see if it works for us. Gotta have her road worthy by June 5th... Then it's time to summer scamp ( both teachers)
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