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Old 11-22-2012, 04:33 PM   #29
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Totes can't be hauled very far, they're not sturdy enough. Here's my idea, I hope someone can tell me if it's flawed or not.
If you have a pickup truck or sturdy tow vehicle, put the portable tank in there. Then, use a macerator pump like a Flo-Jet to pump the waste up into that tank (they can pump uphill). Then, just drive your SUV or pickup to wherever the nearest dump station is, and dump it. Even if it's 10 miles away, it's no big deal if you don't have to pull the trailer there. I assume you cannot tow a portable tank that far, they just don't look that sturdy to me. But you can sure carry one in a vehicle, if you didn't have to lift it to get it in there.
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:13 PM   #30
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I see this is an older post. However, since i use my scamp for several weeks in the dead of winter and it is winterized by then, I use a 5 gallon plastic bucket, with a toilet seat that fits the rim of the bucket. Then run the bucket into the house and empty it in the toilet.
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:23 PM   #31
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Dumpsites are not necessarily available for me, and because the trailer is occasionally used as a guesthouse the ability to dump at home is a great advantage: one of the gutter downspouts terminates in a cast-iron pipe which goes directly into the sewer, so I rigged up a hose connection to it.
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I realize this is old, but FYI, there is a difference between "sewer" and "septic". Dumping black water into the sewer ( like the gutter downspout drain ) is a NO NO.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:18 PM   #32
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I realize this is old, but FYI, there is a difference between "sewer" and "septic". Dumping black water into the sewer ( like the gutter downspout drain ) is a NO NO.
Ahhhh, not in Portland, Oregon (where Per lives). We don't filter storm water from sewer water. As long as the downspot drain goes to the sewer, we're good to go.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:52 PM   #33
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So, you don't treat your sewage? You just dump it in the rivers and ocean? Depends on your situation apparently. Victoria, BC dumps in the ocean, and it is argued that there is no harm due ocean flushing. If Vancouver did that, the harbour would be full of brown lumps.
The reason for separating sewer and septic is that it is too costly to run rain run-off through the treatment system.
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:58 PM   #34
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No Glenn, we don't dump raw sewage in the ocean or rivers... d'oh, we're tree huggers. There's so much water coming out of the skys, it actually helps the water treatment, which are open air. But, trust me, we pay for that priviledge. I'm charged extra every month for storm water run off from the roof of my home. Septic is totally different.. a single residence tank with leach fields in the homeowners yard.
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OK, if I follow you, black water should not be dumped in the drain that Pers' eaves empty in to, as was suggested as a solution?
Otherwise, I could just pull up to any drain on the streets of Portland and open the black tank valve.
And, you are saying that every home owner has their own septic field? How about the high rises? I don't think I follow you.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:45 PM   #36
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Glenn, you mentioned in an above post: "there is a difference between "sewer" and "septic"." Yes there is, in Portland anyway. Sewer is a system of connected pipes running to a sewage treatment plant. A septic system is for one house, not connected to others. Portland has been moving everyone to the sewer system over the years and away from septics. Only the septic systems are in outlaying areas now. I can't think of any area that has a multiple residence dwelling that's not on the public sewer.

AND YES, you could pull up and drain into a "storm water" drain, other than the fact it's against the law. I'll see if I can find a "news" article on Portland's big dig, maybe then you'd understand.
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No Glenn, we don't dump raw sewage in the ocean or rivers... d'oh, we're tree huggers. There's so much water coming out of the skys, it actually helps the water treatment, which are open air. But, trust me, we pay for that priviledge. I'm charged extra every month for storm water run off from the roof of my home. Septic is totally different.. a single residence tank with leach fields in the homeowners yard.
That is interesting. It is done different here in Calgary. There are separate storm and sanitary sewer systems. The sanitary is what comes from the homes waste drains, and goes to be treated. The storm goes directly to the river, not requiring any treatment, thus not further taxing the treatment facility. In fact, it is illegal to connect any rain water drain, like gutters or sump pumps, to it. When installing sumps they must be pumped outside and dispersed there. In areas where ground water is an issue, there is a separate storm line run to the home for the sump water.
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I think I may have confused issues with the terms I used. As in I should have said that the storm and septic are separate and one shouldn't be dumping septic into the drain for one's eaves ( the storm drain ).
And, that is what was recommended as a solution in the original post.
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Old 11-22-2012, 11:03 PM   #39
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Glenn, If I understand Donna correctly, in Portland, they don't separate surface drains from the sewer. All the surface drains go into the sewer. They must have some way to deal with the extra water in their water treatment system.

This has been discussed before, but a composting toilet makes sense. Use your black water tank for urine only. The previously mentioned 5 gallon pail and some peat moss. Remember to stir. The result is basically dirt.
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Old 11-23-2012, 04:15 AM   #40
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just a quick question, 30 gallon tank (grey) on a Snoozy. Just my wife and I, how long can we expect to stay put without dumping??
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just a quick question, 30 gallon tank (grey) on a Snoozy. Just my wife and I, how long can we expect to stay put without dumping??
It Depends. If you take a long shower it'll only last 1 day. If you wash lots of dishes it might last a couple days. If you use paper plates and don't shower you could go weeks.
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Old 11-23-2012, 06:05 AM   #42
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of course,,,,, Don't like paper, campground showers when avail, etc.
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