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Old 05-27-2014, 07:05 PM   #29
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As it has been explained to me, a composting toilet, on one of our trailers, is really a poop dehydrator. Stir frequently, like every time you use it. Vent well, and maybe even heat. Some actual decomposition probably happens, but a secondary, larger, composter is required for finishing.

That is the theory as I understand it.
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Old 05-27-2014, 07:06 PM   #30
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Thanks Dave. I'm trying to become a camper again. It's been a long time.

Steve, here is a link to the info in the couple's blog. They have been writing about their experiences for a long time, but definitely have more travel money than i do. I was curious how this works in real life myself.
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Old 05-27-2014, 07:39 PM   #31
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In my opinion, issues of providing enough space for the composting process to actually work, not to mention those attached to finding places to dispose of what really amounts to untreated human waste mixed with peat moss make this an impractical and cumbersome solution for anyone but those who are stationary and on privately owned property.

As for the logistics:
A composting setup will be just as heavy as a small porta potty tank- heavier, in my opinion, since you'll be schlepping the peat moss/whatever in addition to your own waste.

I'm saying this from the extremely conservative perspective of the way I use my own porta-potty:
NOTHING goes into it unless it's been "processed" by a human body first. Rare exception to that rule may be perhaps a cupful of water for flush purposes if needed. All TP is disposed of separately. By this method I can go (literally!) for three days or more before having to empty the bottom tank, which probably weighs less than 15 pounds, total, and can be emptied in any latrine/outhouse/toilet, or even in a sewage dumping facility like the big boys use.
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Old 05-27-2014, 07:53 PM   #32
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:05 PM   #33
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Ooops, I'll try again

SPOILER ALERT: Those that are queasy or easily offended about bodily functions, read no further.... You were warned....




My late wife was wheel chair bound for a number of years and still were able to occasionally go camping in a tent trailer with two young boys.

Her favorite weapon of choice was the "Freshette female urinary director". (Google it) That device and a few 1/2 gallon milk containers always took care of those needs both in the car as well as in the tent trailer when needs arose.

Emergency needs for the other function was taken care of with a seldom used covered bedpan kind of thingy that I could take to the looo for cleaning in a shopping bag.

In about 8 years of use there seldom was a problem.

That's one answer anyway.
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My in-laws have a composting toilet at their lake property. It is big, about twice the size of a regular toilet, needs 110 power for the heater,needs to be vented, actually think it is a power vent in conjunction with the heater, I havent investigated it much, just do my business and cover like a cat... works OK if not overused
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I looked into one on my boat...I read the hype...sounds good.

But the sad fact is the units are too small to completely break down the poop...so you end up having to dump it into a 5 gallon pail with a lid with a few holes in it to allow it to complete composting. So its not as awesome as they describe. And yes their is an odor... kind of an earthy smell to it but an odor none the less.

Perhaps the ones in a house or cabin that have a much larger heated composting bin but remember you still need to dump it....can you haul a 5 gallon pail of dirt?
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So....any elderly, female, solo travelers have any advice for me?
I forgot to mention in my previous posts that I...well...might fit the above profile/requirement, role-model-wise. I guess that's up to you, depending on whether my breathin' down the neck of 62 yrs on earth qualifies.

Hastening to add that I still see an eighteen-year-old in the mirror in the morning!
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This is exactly the kind of input i needed.

Bob, thanks for being so candid. I helped take care of my totally disabled father for many years (probably contributed to the bad back). Reading of your outdoor experiences with your wife is very helpful. I have read about that little funnel type gizmo in hiking/backpacking forums and wondered how well it might work. I love to hike and i think this might be a knee saver for me. I am no longer a crouching tiger...lol. Also, my mother loves the outdoors but won't go anywhere because she is afraid of not having bathroom use. She even has the taller toilets in her house.

Francesca, do you ever venture out to areas without bathroom facilities with your cassette toilet? I keep thinking i would have to dump it everyday, no matter how careful/frugal i tried to be with it. Oh, and what you "see" in the mirror is the most important thing. : ) I shouldn't have put the question out to seniors, but I don't find many people my age with the same concerns. I don't really qualify either, but i've learned it's not the age but the miles. : )

Thanks for all the info and setting me straight on the "hype" of the comp toilet. It was looking too easy and contributed to wishful thinking.

I have always thought that black tanks, hoses, pumping were more for those who wanted to stay in more expensive full hookup parks. If I'm understanding correctly, now I'm thinking that might be the best method for dealing with more remote camping too. I keep trying to downsize my needs so I can afford to travel more and soon.
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Francesca, do you ever venture out to areas without bathroom facilities with your cassette toilet? I keep thinking i would have to dump it everyday, no matter how careful/frugal i tried to be with it. Oh, and what you "see" in the mirror is the most important thing. : ) I shouldn't have put the question out to seniors, but I don't find many people my age with the same concerns. I don't really qualify either, but i've learned it's not the age but the miles. : )
I boondock almost exclusively, and the porta-potty works fine out in the woods. I find that I rarely go more than a few days without leaving camp in the car for one reason or another, and take the bottom tank with me to empty when needed. Places to do so are never hard to find. I prefer hauling the portable tank to having to haul a black tank (whole trailer), which depending on tank configuration/use might require emptying on a similar schedule. I should add that I do stretch capacity when in very remote areas by way of using the simple go-in-a-hole potty method that served during my tent camping days. I carry a folding toilet seat for that purpose and backfill/tamp scat holes, of course.

Per my age etc:

I just went back and reread this whole thread and realized that I posted much the same things on the same subject months ago...the fact that I "forgot" certainly doesn't speak well for the "eighteen-year-old" I think I still have inside me!

P.S. about your Mother:

Taking my Mom camping was a primary reason I bought my Trillium to begin with- she loved to camp but at over eighty tenting was getting a little too "rough". She ADORED the Trillium, and we made many a memorable trip together while I was fortunate enough to still have her. The porta potty was a little low for her, too, but I solved that by setting it on a box as a riser when she used it. Worked fine for her!
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Hope that helps. Actually my 1st wife discovered those at REI in our backpacking daze (Late 1960s) They were originally designed for use with M'lady's levi's still ON.

Black tanks are fine, but they can be a bigger PITA to empty that a porta-potty as there isn't always a dump station available, but there is always a loo. The basic rule is that the fuller your black tank, the further it is to a dump station. LOL

BTW: When you see that 18 y.o. in the mirror in the morning, does he also make breakfast for you? LOLOLOL
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I'm considering adding a macerator to my tanks to make dumping a push button affair with a garden hose. I was given the macerator. Not sure about clearance under the Scamp or combining the two tanks, though I think the gray water could be sucked through a small diameter hose. Seems doable and might answer for Paige.
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I boondock almost exclusively, and the porta-potty works fine out in the woods. I find that I rarely go more than a few days without leaving camp in the car for one reason or another, and take the bottom tank with me to empty when needed. Places to do so are never hard to find. I prefer hauling the portable tank to having to haul a black tank (whole trailer), which depending on tank configuration/use might require emptying on a similar schedule. I should add that I do stretch capacity when in very remote areas by way of using the simple go-in-a-hole potty method that served during my tent camping days. I carry a folding toilet seat for that purpose and backfill/tamp scat holes, of course.
I seriously considered composting toilets and incinerator toilets and research the subject extensively. Incinerator toilets require too much maintenance and composting toilets can work but can be fussy ( cold weather use) and might need tweaking. (Fans for positive ventilation and odor control and automatic mixers).

My conclusion was that externally accessed cassette toilets are the best option for boondocker's, portapotties next, and holding tanks came in third because of their disadvantages which could be worked around as Francesca summarized so well.
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Old 05-29-2014, 03:55 PM   #42
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Your responses are so helpful. There are more solutions available than I thought (with a bit of modification). I think having a couple of working options might be my answer, instead of trying to find THE ONE easiest/best way. And coming up with a couple of devices that help us go "old school" will cut down on using inside toilet.
Does anyone know off hand any brands that have an externally accessed cassette toilet? I do like that idea...thinking i might could use a small/lightweight handtruck if i had to carry it far...and not let it get too full or heavy. Ya'll brought up great point, that i really don't want to have to pack up and leave site just to dump.
I really didn't want to tow anything big, so i'm liking these ideas.
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