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Old 12-03-2007, 02:55 PM   #15
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Hi Jerry - your post that "Our town is small about 450 people and we have good water here but it is not clorinated or treated with anything. Plus I sometimes use the water that flows in a creek next to where we camp..." concerns me and this is where the source of your problem may be. Untreated water contains bacteria and spoors and such that the right environment will grow. The town water is likely OK, but creek water can contain all sorts of things. The taste is one problem, but the health issues of what you may be ingesting should be a greater concern. Bleach is your only solution to killing most of what's there (like 99%). Flushing it out properly will remove any taste along with the bacteria and spoors.

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Plus I sometimes use the water that flows in a creek next to where we camp..." concerns me and this is where the source of your problem may be. Untreated water contains bacteria and spoors and such that the right environment will grow. The town water is likely OK, but creek water can contain all sorts of things. The taste is one problem, but the health issues of what you may be ingesting should be a greater concern. Bleach is your only solution to killing most of what's there (like 99%). Flushing it out properly will remove any taste along with the bacteria and spoors.

Hi, all - I concur with this. "Wild" water can contain lots of bad stuff, including the especially bad giardia & cryptosporidium, both causing whopping cases of diarrhea, cramps & gas. Both can be difficult to treat too. Beavers carry giardia and poop in those cold streams, thereby infecting unsuspecting consumers!
Check out the link to one of "Phred's poop sheets" on water treatment: http://www.phrannie.org/water.html. Seems to be good info, based on what I know.
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Old 12-05-2007, 11:23 AM   #19
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Plus I sometimes use the water that flows in a creek next to where we camp..." concerns me and this is where the source of your problem may be. Untreated water contains bacteria and spoors and such that the right environment will grow. The town water is likely OK, but creek water can contain all sorts of things. The taste is one problem, but the health issues of what you may be ingesting should be a greater concern. Bleach is your only solution to killing most of what's there (like 99%). Flushing it out properly will remove any taste along with the bacteria and spoors.

Hi, all - I concur with this. "Wild" water can contain lots of bad stuff, including the especially bad giardia & cryptosporidium, both causing whopping cases of diarrhea, cramps & gas. Both can be difficult to treat too. Beavers carry giardia and poop in those cold streams, thereby infecting unsuspecting consumers!
Check out the link to one of "Phred's poop sheets" on water treatment: http://www.phrannie.org/water.html. Seems to be good info, based on what I know.
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Good article.
I use a ceramic filter when backpacking. I was quite amazed with how well they filter. I put some food coloring in some water, then run the water through the filter. The filtered water had no signs of food coloring, it was perfectly clear. As pointed out in the article they're not cheap.
I also have one of the RV type filters that connects to a hose. I always use that when filling the fresh water tank. My main purpose here to remove some the iron and minerals from my well water.
I wouldn't use an open water source except for washing dishes and cleaning after the water has boiled. Also for showers use a solar shower filled with the open water source water. You don't need drinkable water to wash with. Using open water sources that way will extend the time you can continue to use the good clean fresh water you brought with you.
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:17 PM   #20
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Cheer up!

You could be in one of the United States richest counties and be getting "Toilet to Tap" water.

This is being referred to as the great poop water controversy ...

I understand the science, and it make sense, but my brain is a bit squeamish tho..
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Cheer up!

You could be in one of the United States richest counties and be getting "Toilet to Tap" water.

This is being referred to as the great poop water controversy ...

I understand the science, and it make sense, but my brain is a bit squeamish tho..
Well!
There's only so much water.
Water is a closed loop system.
All water has passed through kidneys at some point in time.

The good news.
Evaporation and rain work like distilling, cleans the water.
Sand, plants, etc. work as filters to clean the water as it seeps into the ground water systems.

Nature is wonderful in this regard. Problems occur when populations gather in large numbers. The system then becomes overloaded and needs some help, hence water treatment plants.
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Hi, all - I agree with Byron - by the time the LA wastewater reaches the aquifer, it will be very clean. Prolly cleaner & safer than water treated at plants that use lots of chemicals. After all, many municipal water sources are open ponds or lakes that then have their water "cleaned" before sending to the tap. The aquifer water will also taste MUCH better!! Where I used to live (Champaign, IL) one of the better aquifers in the Midwest U.S. supplies the local water & I've never tasted water better anywhere in my travels.
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The creek water I'm refering to that I have added to my rv tank is from a creek that emptys into the Selway river in central Idaho. It's called Glover creek, It has an elevation drop of about 3200 feet and a total length of 5 to 6 miles. In it's drainage area there has never been any logging or mining and there are no roads. Only one trail that runs along side of it for a ways up the mountain. No doubt there is some algae in the water but that's the way god made it, so I just drink and enjoy.

I have looked at some sites to see what kind of filters are availably and I did come across one site that said "When mounting our water filter be sure you mount it out of the sun because in the sun it will make the algae grow from the heat and light". That's why I was inquiring about about covering the tank in my rv just to see if any one else had tried it. My old slide in camper never did have a water issue and I left water in it several times. But the water tank in it was totally enclosed. I guess what I was hoping for was a "no light" "no problem". Jerry
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The creek water I'm refering to that I have added to my rv tank is from a creek that emptys into the Selway river in central Idaho. It's called Glover creek, It has an elevation drop of about 3200 feet and a total length of 5 to 6 miles. In it's drainage area there has never been any logging or mining and there are no roads. Only one trail that runs along side of it for a ways up the mountain. No doubt there is some algae in the water but that's the way god made it, so I just drink and enjoy.

I have looked at some sites to see what kind of filters are availably and I did come across one site that said "When mounting our water filter be sure you mount it out of the sun because in the sun it will make the algae grow from the heat and light". That's why I was inquiring about about covering the tank in my rv just to see if any one else had tried it. My old slide in camper never did have a water issue and I left water in it several times. But the water tank in it was totally enclosed. I guess what I was hoping for was a "no light" "no problem". Jerry
Light and heat do encourage algae growth. Most tanks are made of some form of Polyethylene. Paints don't like to stick to polyethylene, nor does much of anything. I would suggest some sort of cover, a fabric blanket that would absorb condensation and wick it to outer surface would be ideal.

As for drinking from any open water source there's always some animal up stream that doesn't have hygiene habits to prevent it from pooping in the water source or near it. A couple years ago I read some information about using open water sources, one is NOT take the water directly from a moving source. It needs to sit a couple hours or overnight to let some of the stuff settle to bottom, then syphon off the top 2/3 to 3/4 for use.
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