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Old 08-09-2016, 11:16 AM   #1
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My wife and I are getting closer to buying a small trailer. So one of the things we are discussing is paying for it by renting it out for a year or two while it sits in our backyard (very common here in Austin, lots of young people / college students).

So the issue we are stuck with at the moment is the bathroom issue (or more aptly the poo-poo issue). Having a stranger coming in through the back door in the middle of the night to use the head would be inconvenient at the least and unsettling at 3am. Our back yard is a very gentle slope away from the house, which would be great for grey water. Do I just empty it for them periodically? The sewer cleanout in on the other side of the house and not reachable from where the trailer will be and it the cleanout is slightly uphill anyway. And even if I emptied the sewage into a blue tote, how do I get it OUT of the blue tote? There is water and drain inside near the back of the house where our utility room is, but again we have a pier and beam house and the pipes would be higher than the floor of the trailer.

Perhaps there just isn't a workable solution? Opinions?
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:34 AM   #2
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I think you are being highly optimistic about renting out your trailer for a year or two to college students . The rent collected may well pay the monthly trailer payments but after 2 years the trailer may be worth less than what you still owe.
We raised 5 kids and trying to get them to clean their room was a full time job .Getting rid of the sewage waste may end up being the least of your problems.
We own a lake cabin which we rented out on occasion and when all was said and done , we lost money and spent numerous hours repairing damage .
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:36 AM   #3
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Young professional type college students, not undergrads. There won't really be any room in there to party, plus the trailer would be in viewing distance from the house.
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Old 08-09-2016, 11:59 AM   #4
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You can pump liquids up a hill from a holding tank.

Hope you are really close friends with all of your neighbors and that they are supportive of your new rental unit plan.
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Old 08-09-2016, 01:34 PM   #5
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I don't see how this works unless you like to take your new roomie with you.

Anyway this will probably fit your needs.

Bathroom Anywhere Macerator Pump 120 Volt-38724.0 - The Home Depot
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Old 08-09-2016, 01:35 PM   #6
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plumbing....

there are units specifically designed for people who want to add a bathroom in the basement and where the sewer outlet is too high to do it.....look for one of those in a wholesale plumbing place...they are cheap and easy to install...the only caveat would be the head rating of the pump (difference between bottom of tank and outlet at the house end)

you would have to run a water line (3/4"), a return sewer line(1.5 or 2") and electrical wire to the site

these units are all assembled, ready to go and all you need to do is connect the different lines to them......and dig a three foot or so hole of course
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Old 08-09-2016, 01:58 PM   #7
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You can pump liquids up a hill from a holding tank.

Hope you are really close friends with all of your neighbors and that they are supportive of your new rental unit plan.

We have a privacy fence. I'm pretty sure the only difference between then and now would be one more car out front. Also, we're a bit more libertarian than other cities...
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Old 08-09-2016, 02:20 PM   #8
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We have a privacy fence. I'm pretty sure the only difference between then and now would be one more car out front. Also, we're a bit more libertarian than other cities...
I'd still check bylaws before making plans.
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Old 08-09-2016, 02:22 PM   #9
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I don't see how this works unless you like to take your new roomie with you.
They call it trading places
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Old 08-09-2016, 02:44 PM   #10
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I cant nightmare of renting my Scamp out. My wife doesnt even want our GROWN kids sleeping in it when they're up...we do!

(Man..sometimes like its a sacred thing.... )
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I'd still check bylaws before making plans.
We don't have a neighborhood association (thank the gods).
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We don't have a neighborhood association (thank the gods).
BUT, you do have State Laws, County Ordinances, and if live inside a city limits you have City Ordinances. To be sure you're fully covered contact all of them.
There's also in insurance issue.
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When our son was a senior in high school he bought himself a used silver trailer (airstream knockoff) and we set him up in the sideyard away from the main road.

We put in a propane tank pad, ran a long line to the sewer (dug a long, long trench, making sure to slope it correctly), ran a long, wrapped hose for water, and used heavy-duty extension cords. Thus, his last 8 months with us he had his own "apartment." We installed a brand new little 110 fridge, and he moved out/in.

We learned a few things from all that.

1. There are still "coming and going" issues.

2. Those trailers are generally NOT designed for full-time living. All systems begin to wear out faster than you thought possible (including inner walls, upholstery, etc). A "park" type model would be designed for full time living, but his wasn't a park model.

3. It costs more than you expect to set it up properly, even if you cut corners as we did.

4. Although it's still YOUR property, and you have full view of the trailer from your windows, you may well find ourself looking out at a gaggle of folks lolling about freely all over the place, even "graduate students" can still be relatively young people, and their friends wn't have been vetted by your rental process--and are under neither your nor your tentant's entire control. And renters are, well, let's face it, renters. They likely aren't going to ever feel the same responsibility toward YOUR property as you do.

Would we do it again? Wow. No. The trailer really went downhill in only the 8 months, and we were never free from worrying about it. Our neighbors were fine with it, we didn't even consider checking ordinances (probably not actually permitted), and our son was pretty happy with the arrangement, but it would've been easier in retrospect to just cut a new door from the outside into his bedroom and make do with that.

Bearing in mind it was HIS trailer and he was younger...

If I wanted the trailer for myself later, I wouldn't rent it out first on any kind of a long-term basis.

As a temporary visitor space, fine. A time or two a year. but for months and months on end? No.

Just our experience.

Seems like a really good idea--but the details pile up on you.

I think I'd just start setting aside some money each month for those two years in a special savings account to buy your trailer when you're ready to start using it, but YMMV, of course.c


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We don't have a neighborhood association (thank the gods).
Nothing to do with a neighbourhood associations.

All counties/districts/cities have building codes that outline how & where sewage piping and or storm drains can be constructed.

As far as your earlier question about what you do with waste that you have drained into a portable tote. I have a fairly small one so I can easily lift it and dump it into a toilet and flush - much the same as you would do with a porta potty. Although my tote is fairly small I still need to dump it at about 1/3 at at a time so as to not overflow the toilet.
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