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Old 10-24-2008, 09:02 AM   #15
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While toilet shopping, not as much fun as it sounds, I ran across a cleaning tool on the rvwholesalers website, search "Thetford toilets":

"The flushing mechanism on Aqua-Magic permanent toilets consists of a blade that slides tightly below a rubber lip seal.
Occasionally, toilet tissue or other debris may get caught in the groove below the seal, preventing the blade from fully closing. This allows fresh water in the toilet to leak into the holding tank and eliminates the odor barrier. Thetford offers a specially designed tool for cleaning the seal groove on Aqua-Magics. Nicknamed "The Bent Screw driver", this tool does the job easily and without damaging the seal."

The price $17 got me thinking that an offset screwdriver might also work. Somehow Pete's suggestion isn't that attractive!

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Old 10-24-2008, 10:29 AM   #16
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A lube might help it, but do not use Vaseline, it will break down the seal because its a petroleum based lube...go to a restaurant supply company and get silicone based N.S.F. lube for ice cream machines ect. its cheap and will hold up even in cold...the time to do this was before the seal goes...but it may still help some...also ambient temps are going to say allot here regarding the tolerances between the mating surfaces of the seal...if the dump door is the sliding type your doomed, one scratch on the door surface and any seal new or not will be cut by the scratch on the door as it slides past the seal, this sucks as you must R&R the door and seal together...if you have a flapper type of door or a ball valve your in luck...fix it with the seal only. Tolerating the leak as part of your toilets personality is probably cheaper. This is a nightmare when a $$$$ coach comes in under warranty with this issue...We just replace the toilet to get rid of the problem and ebay the old unit out.


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Yes Donna, the water only drips until the bowl is about empty--I figured it was a seal problem. I don't have water running continually like a standard reservoir toilet in the home--that would be a REAL problem. Sounds as if one just can't replace a seal without replacing a toilet! And it is only 2 years old!! I will try scrubbing the seal again the next time out. I was also wondering if something like Vaseline might help keep the seal functioning.


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Old 10-25-2008, 01:28 PM   #17
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My 25' Bigfoot has the usual Thetford Toilet. Water in the bowl is leaking through the flush valve. I had the same problem last spring and was able to cure it by scrubbing the inside edge of the seal. It felt like it was covered with mineral deposits. I am wondering if I will eventually need to replace the seal/valve? Anyone done this. What am I in for?

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Our seal is leaking, it used to hold water but not anymore. When I inspected the seal I found a "nick" in it so no amount of cleaning will solve the problem. no smells though so I see no reason to change the seal. Tony
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:34 PM   #18
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While toilet shopping, not as much fun as it sounds, I ran across a cleaning tool on the rvwholesalers website, search "Thetford toilets":

"The flushing mechanism on Aqua-Magic permanent toilets consists of a blade that slides tightly below a rubber lip seal.
Occasionally, toilet tissue or other debris may get caught in the groove below the seal, preventing the blade from fully closing. This allows fresh water in the toilet to leak into the holding tank and eliminates the odor barrier. Thetford offers a specially designed tool for cleaning the seal groove on Aqua-Magics. Nicknamed "The Bent Screw driver", this tool does the job easily and without damaging the seal."

The price $17 got me thinking that an offset screwdriver might also work. Somehow Pete's suggestion isn't that attractive!

http://www.rvwholesalers.com/catalog...hp?mode=search

I wonder if my problem was material getting into the groove, because the leak self corrected. Some toilet tissue would eventually disintegrate.

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Old 10-29-2008, 08:52 PM   #19
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I don't know what type of toilet my Scamp has, but it does not use a blade - instead it has an eyeball valve. The toilet is porcelain - it is old, and still works perfectly. Not sure if they make this kind anymore, but might be a good one to look for if you are forced into a replacement.....
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:08 AM   #20
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Jake,

The toilet in your Scamp is probably a Sealand Traveler. They are good toilets and popular for replacement toilets in vintage trailers, including Airstreams. Thetford and Sealand are separate brands, but both are part of Dometic. Sealand makes quite a few marine toilets as well.

All are better than the "toidy" jar or trudging to the RR at night.
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Many of the blade seals are double-lip and the blade goes between them -- Clean the INSIDE between the lips with a popsicle stick or tongue depressor, wood with rounded edges so the seal isn't damaged -- I would put some silicon grease (dielectric grease if you can't find the plumber's silicon grease) on the seal and blade to lube and protect.

Do NOT eat the stuf you may find in the seal...
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