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Booker B. 07-23-2008 01:34 PM

Hi All,

Like many of you we do all of our cooking outside of our trailer. One thing that has bothered me was the use disposable propane cylinders - we can go through as many as 1 a day depending on what have on the menu. I find that the use of them is both quite wasteful and for garbage collectors a hazardous item (more on what they are doing in Canada here)

What I have done is install a Extend-A-Flow Tee on my propane tank to allow for flow through on to the regulator on the trailer. It then provides an pressure fitting for a standard camping appliance hose. We used this last weekend on our trip to a local island and it works like a charm. The only drawback was that we had only one appliance hose and I would like to connect our propane stove and propane lantern.

To handle this I have purchased an Add-A-Tee to split a single appliance connection into two. I will also need to buy 2 additional short hoses to feed the appliances.

The only drawback (and its a biggie) to this system is the cost. The Canadian prices are similar to the links I have included to rvshop.com. A 12' hose runs around $45 bucks. A 5' hose runs around $30. So total cost is going to be around $150-$200 all said and done. That's a lot of dough not to be using $4.00 disposable cylinders. I think the brass fittings could be made much cheaper but the hoses would require specialized equipment

Anyways, just thought I would let people know about an alternate system if you do extended day trips like we do.

Booke

kentj 07-23-2008 02:16 PM

What I have set up is done with a POL Tee. One side of the tee goes to the trailer and the other to distribution tree that has three taps on it, the lantern on top, stove out the side and I still have one left over for something else if need be.

KJ

Booker B. 07-23-2008 03:07 PM

That was one approach I looked at. However, it does tie our cooking table and lantern to being closer to the propane tank unless we use a couple of 12' hoses.

Probably had I realized how convenient having the main propane tank run multiple appliances is I would have taken your approach but I was kind of committed once I bought the Extenda-Flow Tee. Going with my current system (Tee -> 12' -> Add-A-Tee-> dual 5' hoses) does give me the flexibility to have the cooking system at the back of the trailer which is where we generally had it in the past with disposable containers.

kentj 07-23-2008 03:14 PM

The other option could have been one of these E-Z Propane Filler and just reuse the disposable cylinders.

KJ

jim munson 07-23-2008 04:12 PM

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The other option could have been one of these E-Z Propane Filler and just reuse the disposable cylinders.

KJ
I've used the ezfiller for several years and dozens of tanks. Saved many $.
You have to be careful and sober. Once I unscrewed the small tank before I shut off the valve and got a nasty quater-size freeze burn before I got it shut offAlso I never leave filled tanks in an enclosed space because once in a while one has a slow leak even if I have soapy water tested it.
But it costs about 30 cents to fill one so why not try?

Anne H 07-23-2008 04:27 PM

Hey - I like that idea - cheap and not so many hoses/hook-ups to deal with. And, I wouldn't be tethered by how long my hoses were!


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The other option could have been one of these E-Z Propane Filler and just reuse the disposable cylinders.

KJ

Daniel V. 07-23-2008 04:35 PM

I dislike the small 1lb containers as well. What I use is a refillable 5 lb propane tank from Canadian Tire, which I put next to the picnic table where we usually do most of the cooking with our portable stove. As to refilling 1 lb containers, it seems to be illegal in some places, and so is transporting re-filled disposable bottles. Check with local authorities...

Booker B. 07-23-2008 04:39 PM

I believe in the USA it is illegal to tranport refilled containers. I think in Canada it is also illegal to refill them period. Too bad as that would be one solution to this issue.

Daniel V. 07-23-2008 04:51 PM

I find that one 5 lb propane tank takes less space than 5 x 1 lb cylinders anyway, and I imagine is much less work than having to constantly deal with refilling the small ones. It also tucks nicely in a rubbermaid tub, plus you can use it as a backup if your main tank runs out before the small one, without the extra weight of a second large tank.

Joe Z 07-23-2008 05:35 PM

those five pound tanks would be nice but i have asked all over the reading pa area and nobody will refill them and if they do they want the same price as a twenty pound tank....... I would also buy a five pound new style OPD tank if i could find one but i still have an old style tank that i didn't even mention when i asked about refilling them........... any hints on where to fill them(the new style OPD)?______
Joe

Tom Trostel 07-23-2008 06:09 PM

Joe,
If you have Northern Tool in your area, they sell new 5 lb. tanks. I've also seen some at Camping World.

Tom Trostel

Rick B 07-23-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Hi All,

Like many of you we do all of our cooking outside of our trailer. One thing that has bothered me was the use disposable propane cylinders - we can go through as many as 1 a day depending on what have on the menu. I find that the use of them is both quite wasteful and for garbage collectors a hazardous item (more on what they are doing in Canada here)

What I have done is install a Extend-A-Flow Tee on my propane tank to allow for flow through on to the regulator on the trailer. It then provides an pressure fitting for a standard camping appliance hose. We used this last weekend on our trip to a local island and it works like a charm. The only drawback was that we had only one appliance hose and I would like to connect our propane stove and propane lantern.

Booke
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Some of the newer trailers plumb to the on-board propane tanks and have a quick connect fitting terminating on the side of the trailer under the body. I had such an option installed on my Bigfoot, and so far use my RVQ barbeque, but could adapt to other appliances. I don't recall the cost, but don't believe it was greater than Booker's install



Joe Z 07-23-2008 07:49 PM

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Joe,
If you have Northern Tool in your area, they sell new 5 lb. tanks. I've also seen some at Camping World.

Tom Trostel
Thanks Tom....I will have to look into these places..... someone locally told me maybe a plumbing supply house will fill them as all the garden centers i go to only will fill 20 lb tanks or charge me the same as a 20lb fill
Joe

DanPatWork 07-23-2008 08:39 PM

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I believe in the USA it is illegal to tranport refilled containers. I think in Canada it is also illegal to refill them period. Too bad as that would be one solution to this issue.
I believe this to be correct. At one time the refill tool wasn't allowed to be sold in the US either. Catalog and retail stores were pulling them off the shelves. That was about 5 years ago. I've started seeing them show up on the shelves again.


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