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jrmarsh 04-19-2016 05:55 PM

Trailer for three adults with more than 6 ft headroom
 
This may be a silly question but I'm wondering about what trailers (new or used) would give me over 6 ft of head room and sleeping space for three adults. Three twin beds would be ideal. A full queen bed and one twin would be OK. A double bed and a twin... not so much. Any ideas? My wife and I would like to travel with an adult friend bug my wife indicates the trailer must have twins or a full queen for she and myself as well as a bathroom with shower. We're all 6 ft or more tall and I don't want to buy anything where we have to duck to be inside the trailer. I am thinking of towing with a Tacoma 4x4 or a Chevy Colorado diesel 4x4. The payload for both of these trucks makes available 5th wheels a little dicey (colorado better but still not much margin).

Mitzi Agnew-Giles 04-19-2016 06:10 PM

www.lilsnoozy.com a dedicated queen bed and a "jackknife" sofa that folds down to a twin. 6 ft 6 inch interior height.
But LOOK IRL as well as cyber sleuth and reading. I was all gung ho for an R pod- right up until I saw my first interior IRL.

jrmarsh 04-19-2016 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitzi Agnew-Giles (Post 582774)
www.lilsnoozy.com a dedicated queen bed and a "jackknife" sofa that folds down to a twin. 6 ft 6 inch interior height.
But LOOK IRL as well as cyber sleuth and reading. I was all gung ho for an R pod- right up until I saw my first interior IRL.

Thanks. Dont know what you mean by IRL. Snoozy is a good suggestion. Not big on the all electric concept though. The walls seem too flexible on that one too. I would be a little concerned about the walls separating from the interior ... maybe not a problem but something I've thought about.

Mitzi Agnew-Giles 04-19-2016 06:27 PM

IRL_ in real life. Not sure what you mean about "walls separating?" It's basically 2 boat hulls, one upside down atop another is my understanding.

Carol H 04-19-2016 06:41 PM

An Escape 19' or 22' would do the trick.

jrmarsh 04-19-2016 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitzi Agnew-Giles (Post 582778)
IRL_ in real life. Not sure what you mean about "walls separating?" It's basically 2 boat hulls, one upside down atop another is my understanding.

What I have read is that the stiff interior (wood and similar mounted inside) mounted inside the fiberglass hulls comes loose. I'm a design engineer with a good deal of education in composites like fiberglass and I'm not surprised about that alleged problem. Its not really a problem other than cosmetically since you end up with parts that separate a little. Whether or not this is real would take some research on my part.

jrmarsh 04-19-2016 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Carol H (Post 582781)
An Escape 19' or 22' would do the trick.

I like the escapes. Do either of those come in a 3 twin bed configuration? The queen and a twin would do but three twins would be outstanding!

Carol H 04-19-2016 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jrmarsh (Post 582782)
What I have read is that the stiff interior (wood and similar mounted inside) mounted inside the fiberglass hulls comes loose. I'm a design engineer with a good deal of education in composites like fiberglass and I'm not surprised about that alleged problem. Its not really a problem other than cosmetically since you end up with parts that separate a little. Whether or not this is real would take some research on my part.

LOL where did you read that? Care to share the link to that?

The fact that many of us are running around with 25 year old plus fibreglass trailer with nothing failing down or coming loose suggests otherwise.

Yup those of use who have through hull rivets holding the cabinets to the walls do occasionally need to replace a rivet or two due to longterm stress fatigue but thats about the only issue I am aware of. On my 25 year old trailer over the past 8 years I have average since purchase about 1 broken rivet replacement ever 2 years - and that includes the one rivet that sits in a very high stress area being replaced twice. I have replaced others though simple due to the snap cap retaining ring having failed due to age/sun damage.

A number of the fibreglass trailer manufactures do fibreglass the cabinets in place (Escape being one of them) so again nothing coming loose.

charlsara 04-19-2016 07:10 PM

Trailer for three adults with more than 6 ft headroom
 
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Originally Posted by jrmarsh (Post 582782)
What I have read is that the stiff interior (wood and similar mounted inside) mounted inside the fiberglass hulls comes loose. I'm a design engineer with a good deal of education in composites like fiberglass and I'm not surprised about that alleged problem. Its not really a problem other than cosmetically since you end up with parts that separate a little. Whether or not this is real would take some research on my part.


I have a 2014 Lil Snoozy with 16000 miles on it.I haven't had any problems with anything coming loose. The Snoozy hull is much thicker and rigid than some of the other brands. The cabinets are fastened by bolts going through the hull under the belt line. I can see that over time there could be some minor flexing. I did see on here that one of the early models had a shower wall pull loose a little. I know several owners and none have mentioned any thing like this.


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jrmarsh 04-19-2016 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Carol H (Post 582785)
LOL where did you read that? Care to share the link to that?

The fact that many of us are running around with 25 year old plus fibreglass trailer with nothing failing down or coming loose suggests otherwise.

Yup those of use who have through hull rivets holding the cabinets to the walls do occasionally need to replace a rivet or two due to longterm stress fatigue but thats about the only issue I am aware of. On my 25 year old trailer over the past 8 years I have average since purchase about 1 broken rivet replacement ever 2 years - and that includes the one rivet that sits in a very high stress area being replaced twice. I have replaced others though simple due to the snap cap retaining ring having failed due to age/sun damage.

A number of the fibreglass trailer manufactures do fibreglass the cabinets in place (Escape being one of them) so again nothing coming loose.

Actually I have advanced degrees in engineering with a specialty in composites (35 years of experience) and the first time I read about the construction of the snoozy I was concerned that it would be a problem. I read somewhere about the oak trim pulling away from the fiberglass. Its more a cosmetic problem than anything else but cosmetic issues matter to some people including me. As I said its an alleged problem for that trailer only but based on my education and experience it doesn't surprise me. Most fiberglass trailers are a shell with interior components hanging from the shell. The frame around the queen bed on the snoozy actually stiffens the shell. If the shell flexes (which it will) cracks in the filler (probably silicon) will open up. No real problem but it looks bad. I've never seen one. Theory and truth always differ. I'm only repeating what I've read. The snoozy in this regard is completely different than all the other fiberglass trailers.

jrmarsh 04-19-2016 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by charlsara (Post 582787)
I have a 2014 Lil Snoozy with 16000 miles on it.I haven't had any problems with anything coming loose. The Snoozy hull is much thicker and rigid than some of the other brands. The cabinets are fastened by bolts going through the hull under the belt line. I can see that over time there could be some minor flexing. I did see on here that one of the early models had a shower wall pull loose a little. I know several owners and none have mentioned any thing like this.


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I'm not talking about loose like falling off or flopping around. I'm talking about loose like the the silicon seal bead put there for cosmetic purposes pulls away from the shell. Forget where I saw it and its not a big deal. It would just be a negative for me if it actually happens. The all electric aspect would be a much bigger issue for me. I'm not really interested in an all electric camper though. The little snoozy has some positive aspects that attract me. Not sold on it though at this point.

Steve Outlaw 04-19-2016 07:49 PM

Back to the question that was actually asked by the OP, The Oliver Elite II twin bed model will provide 3 separate beds for adults (the front dinette will have to be made down into a bed each night). All the Elite II's have 76" of head room.

jrmarsh 04-19-2016 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Outlaw (Post 582793)
Back to the question that was actually asked by the OP, The Oliver Elite II twin bed model will provide 3 separate beds for adults (the front dinette will have to be made down into a bed each night). All the Elite II's have 76" of head room.

That's a nice trailer. Do you have any idea what it costs? I cant find any cost information on their website. I live pretty close to the oliver factory but since their trailers are so nice I expect they may be out of my price range.

Jim Bennett 04-19-2016 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Carol H (Post 582781)
An Escape 19' or 22' would do the trick.

19 or 21? The 19 has a full 80x60 queen, the 21 is 80x54 with a corner cut off. With either the dinette makes a very comfortable bed for one.

The Escape 5.0TA, which I am getting, would cover you good too, but you have recognized a common fault with a lot of pickups, it that they sometimes don't have adequate cargo capacity. With an approximate dry hitch weight of 600 lbs, you could likely get that up to 800 lbs depending on loading.


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