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CampyTime 07-31-2016 01:27 PM

Hehe Frosty Sink Window Collects Water
 
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Hi Friends,

I've wondered about this water pooling on inside lower tracks of my Scamp13 frosty sink window. Closed during a rain I get water next to outside weatherstripping and then also in inner track right next to it.

Not running down window glass as this is all dry as a bone.

I wondered...am I missing thin weatherstripping in that little slot on outer window edge as shown in pic? Otherwise that little slot seems kind of useless.

Water doesn't get in trailer yet but it certainly fills in lower tracks good! Please help as this doesn't seem right. Called Scamp and they said to drill two little holes...not sure where or how that's going to help.

Please help if you will!

Warmly,
Wendy

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CampyTime 07-31-2016 02:44 PM

PS. Hoping someone with a Scamp 13 with similar problem might share soon!

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The Minimalist 07-31-2016 02:54 PM

Have you cleaned the drain holes in the bottom track?

CampyTime 07-31-2016 03:15 PM

There are no weep holes in this style of Hehr window. Only in my rear slider Hehr. None in my Hehr awning windows either.

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Jon in AZ 07-31-2016 04:04 PM

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I went and looked at mine, Wendy. Exact same window. There is no rubber on the tip-out section, but there is a wide rubber gasket around the frame that appears to mate with the two raised ridges. The gasket has a gap in the bottom center that appears to let water drain. A thunderstorm just passed through. There is water around the gasket, but the inside track, which is raised a little, is dry as a bone.

Here's the outside, which looks just like yours (except not so clean!).
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And a shot from the inside. You can make out the rubber gasket with a gap in the middle.
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It does appear to collect water, and I think it may be because the window is tilted a little inboard above the belly band. It does not seem to get into, or past, the raised inner track.

gordon2 07-31-2016 04:36 PM

Can't tell from the photos but looks like maybe your windows are a little different, but still this thread might be helpful.

Seems to me, if water stays in the channel and the camper stays dry, thats good enough.

CampyTime 07-31-2016 04:37 PM

Hi Jon,

Thank you so much for writing. I need to pick your brains here to help me make out your pic and further assess my situation.

Does the inside of your lower window glass have some sort of black single vinyl weather strip, as in no ridges? Like you'd see on a car window? It appears to.

Water collects in mine in outer section in front of weather strip yes, but also right behind it in a sort of track. Water does NOT collect further back in the rearmost area, near where the metal scissor arms crank out to open the window. Per your pic, one thing that is different is the lack of a break or split in the weatherstripping on the bottom. It is one continuous piece. I'll take better pics and post.

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CampyTime 07-31-2016 04:46 PM

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Thanks Gordon. I sure hope so! Here's some more pics. Don't know if they'll help. Water just sits right in front of black weather strip and right behind it in that track. But it is loaded with water after rain! I have to open and dry out with towel.

Jon in AZ 07-31-2016 05:02 PM

Wendy, it looks to me like they changed the type of rubber gasket. Yours is definitely different than mine. Now that I see yours better, I wonder if Scamp wants you to drill holes in the outer gasket to allow water trapped in between the two ribs to escape.

I'm not understanding your question about the "lower window glass." There is nothing on the part of the window that moves, just metal.

I'm of Gordon's mind, though- if it's not getting into the innermost track or into the trailer, the window is doing what it is supposed to do.

CampyTime 07-31-2016 07:11 PM

Thanks Jon. My wording was terrible. I'll try again. The window pane glass. At the lower most edge of the glass, do you have some sort of vinyl strip seal sticking out from the glass horizontally pointing inward toward the inside of trailer? Hope that makes sense.

Perhaps this is ok but truthfully a pain in the butt. If I weren't so fastidious that water would just sit in there after a rain. Last year I had to buy 3M black weather strip adhesive as the glue on the weatherstripping lost its adhesion. Most likely due to being wet from rains at times.

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Paul O. 07-31-2016 08:35 PM

Wendy, maybe you could cut a narrow notch in the bottom part of the gasket so the pooled water would drain to the outside, like it does on the picture that Jon posted. If that does not work, you could restore the gasket with black caulk, so it looks the same again.
Also, you can pop that screen out easily from inside and dry it out with a paper towel from inside. Then again, you probably figured that out. The only window like that is in the shower of my Scamp. Tomorrow I'll take a look at it in daylight.
Paul

Byron Kinnaman 07-31-2016 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CampyTime (Post 601060)
There are no weep holes in this style of Hehr window. Only in my rear slider Hehr. None in my Hehr awning windows either.

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I have water in rains collecting a bit in the bottom of window track or what ever it called. That water has never come inside so it's NOT something to worry about.

I just checked my 2006 prefire standard 13' Scamp.
One opening rear window 2 weep holes
Two side windows over the bed/dinette 2 weep holes each
One window in the door 2 weep holes.
One front window non opening NO weep holes
On frosted window over the stove opens but no weep holes.
All but the front window are Hehr.

Carol H 07-31-2016 09:25 PM

Wendy I had the same type of window in my Scamps bathroom and water also collected on the bottom inside track as well. Seemed to happen when the trailer was not level side to side even after I pulled the window and resealed it.

I ended up drilling two small holes from the outside on the bottom frame to allow the water to drain out of the lower track - it worked and kept it from overflowing into the trailer. The holes work the same as the factory installed drains with the covers on them on the other windows.

Sorry no pics of it as I do not have the Scamp any more.

gordon2 08-01-2016 06:15 AM

If it were my trailer, I would call Hehr before I started drilling holes.

As you read in the thread that I linked to, for a similar leaking Hehr window issue, Scamp initially gave advice that was very different from that provided by the actual manufacture of the window.


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