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Casita Greg 09-04-2016 11:56 AM

Grilling or BBQ? (Topic Split)
 
Moderator's note: This topic is a spin-off from Cobb BBQ - Cooking with a Cobb Barbecue.


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Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo (Post 607094)
What is the purpose of those "Grill Grates"? As in, what's the difference between those and the grills that come with the Q?
Looks like harder to clean.

Not wanting to "rewrite" all the information and particulars about them is the reason why I included a convenient link to their website. It has all the information about them, and a lot more of it, than I would care to spend half a day typing.

http://www.grillgrate.com/

Glenn Baglo 09-04-2016 01:59 PM

I went to the link. Didn't see a reason to replace grills that come with BBQ. Also, looks like more work to clean with all those holes.

Casita Greg 09-04-2016 03:55 PM

Well, FWIW, they just very easily brush clean, and nobody said you had to buy them Glenn.

Glenn Baglo 09-04-2016 06:26 PM

Whatever. I won't be buying them because I haven't read a reason to do so. No need to take offense.

Casita Greg 09-04-2016 11:02 PM

Sorry Glenn, but I meant no offense. They may not be what everyone wants, I merely offered it up as informational to those who may want to consider them as an option. Obviously, they may not be everybody's cup of tea. I had no intention of offending you or anyone else. Just thought there may be some interest to other members. No harm-No foul.

BillE 09-04-2016 11:18 PM

Now this is my idea of BBQ
 
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Greg...I hear ya' brother

I agree..BBQ is low and slow...I have cooked brisket, pork butts, ribs, cold smoked cheese...and this is my idea of a cooker.

I take the mini Big Green Egg Camping

Glenn Baglo 09-04-2016 11:28 PM

I just wanted to know the advantage over the grills that came with the Q.
Of course, the web site is going to say it's the greatest, or gratest, but I was interested in why you felt they are worthwhile.

Casita Greg 09-04-2016 11:40 PM

Sweet setup Bill. Frankly, I just don't know how anyone would ever achieve an indirect heat zone on a cooker that is only a foot in diameter (Cobb comes to mind here?) to be able to do true barbecue. I do like your "toys" though.

My stuff:
Weber Genesis stainless steel 4 burner grill (with Grill Grates on half and a cast iron flat-top, aka "plancha,") on the other half.

PK Grill Aluminum Charcoal Grill, (also with with Grill Grates.)

2 Weber "Go Anywhere" grills - one propane and one charcoal, (also with a shared set of Grill Grates.)

3 different Camp Chef stoves, (1 burner, 2 burner, and a 3 burner models.) with single and double flat tops and covered grill attachment (also with Grill Grates.)

Bubba's stainless steel indirect heat, (a real BBQ,) grill.

And several other various grilling and barbecuing appliances and all the stuff that goes with it all.

Eat your heart out Bobby Flay! :loltu

(And no, I have no affiliation with the Grill Grates manufacturer, other than I really love cooking on them.)

Glenn Baglo 09-05-2016 12:12 AM

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Mine is Weber Summit Gold with four burners, a smoker burner and a side burner that's rarely used.
I keep all my receipts and the manual and discovered that the 10 year warranty on the burners was about to lapse. Sent photos of the burners to Weber and they replaced the entire set.
I'm good for another ten years except that the body has a few holes in it. I used duct tape ( aluminum duct - not duck ) to patch it up.
The Q has lived outdoors it's entire life.
I love being able to control the heat for indirect cooking. For ribs, I use only the smoker burner. For chicken I'll use the smoker burner and one or two burners as needed.
I'm not sure my neighbour understands the need to BBQ.

Gave my Weber Baby Q and my Dickinson Spitfire to son-in-law and replaced them with a two-burner Napoleon for camping.

Borrego Dave 09-05-2016 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn Baglo (Post 607368)
I'm not sure my neighbour understands the need to BBQ.

It's kind of like having a big backyard party, you invite the neighbors too, no problems. A great BBQ dinner will explain it to them :).

Casita Greg 09-05-2016 12:24 AM

I agree, and Weber's have always been great grills. I have more than a few myself. If you can't create at least a minimum of a two area indirect heat in your cooking appliance, then it's awfully hard to create a good atmosphere for creating good barbecue, and it can't be achieved over a "direct heat" source without it making the meat come out like chewing on a Nike sneaker.:eek:
I also had a Weber Baby Q for a while, but I refurbished it and gave it to one of the boys. Napoleons are really nice grills too. Not cheap either, but you get what you pay for.

BillE 09-05-2016 04:54 PM

Greg ..what are these Girl grates of which you speak?
 
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Greg,

Are we talking about BBQ or grilling. You know there are two styles of BBQ.

You can either do it dry or if you do it right and take your time it can be very wet

My assumption is these Girl grates are not for BBQ...but more for the succulent caramelization known as a sear on your big piece of meat.

Now.... I am most certain.... that you take a long time to rubbing and patting your meat in anticipation for the big event. I hear they use that technique a lot ...out around your neck of the woods.

I am not certain how they do it up north but around these parts real men don't need to use Girl grates to achieve such perfection....we are a tougher bunch in the mid-west...we prefer a sear using the caveman technique. (see first pic)

As far as indirect...even on the Mini Big Green Egg we use a "plate setter" (2nd pic)and cook in the dome. We can separate the fuel into two zones (3rd pic). I have had many Weber grills in my 57 years..(great products) I could never "grill" in February when it is down to zero degrees....where the Green Eg retain so much heat...I gril or BBQ all year long.

Your friend always



Bill


(p.s. my favorite campground is laying off 1,500 bookkeeping and accounting positions)

Casita Greg 09-05-2016 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BillE (Post 607501)
Greg,
Are we talking about BBQ or grilling. You know there are two styles of BBQ.

My assumption is these Girl grates are not for BBQ...but more for the succulent caramelization known as a sear on your big piece of meat.

Bill

Your assumption is correct Bill, they are primarily designed for grilling, hence the name Grill Grates. They aren't designed, per se, to be BBQ grates, but are used for getting that "Maillard effect" on your food, like the umami flavor you get from char broiled stuff. That's why I also have the regular wire grills as well for other types and methods of cooking, but they can't be beat for getting great sear marks. You can even turn them over and use them upside down as a good hot flat top as well.

BBQ, as you already also know, is "low and slow," whereas the Grill Grates are for faster high heat cooking. If I'm doing a brisket or ribs or tri-tips for example, I would not use the Grill Grates for those applications. But if you want good carmelization, they're the ticket.
Greg

BillE 09-06-2016 10:13 PM

Girl grates or Grill Grates?
 
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Real men don't use those ...do they?

I have them and they work great.....a marinated Flank steak..


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