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HawkBoler72 09-19-2018 02:35 PM

Should I use snow tires
 
Hello,

We will be on our round trip between Calgary AB and Salmon Arm BC on Friday and Sunday with our Toyota Sienna + 13' Boler.

The weather broadcast indicates that there will be 1 ~ 2 cm snow in the Glacier Nation Park area.

Should I use current all season tires or use winter snow tires for the tow vehicle? I will bring two tire chains if using the all season tires.

I appreciate your suggestions.

Thanks!
Eric

Steve Carlson 09-19-2018 02:43 PM

Personally I would stick with the all-seasons, recognizing you will have to go slower in the snow than you might with dedicated snow tire.

I wouldn't bother with chains, if the snow gets that deep you have no business trying to pull a camper through it anyway.

Gompka 09-19-2018 03:16 PM

We tried going over an 8,500 ft pass on Indiana Route 13 near Canyon de Chelly in New Mexico in May. There was about an inch or 2 of blowing snow near the top of the pass and it was very windy. We have a 4wd suv and a scamp 13, it was too sketchy to continue so we turned around to go back down, i was going 5mph or less with flashers on and with all season tires the scamp was pushing the car down in places. It was very sketchy and some serious white knuckle driving, i wouldn't recommend towing on any grades in snow if possible. I missed out some plans the next few days because we made sure to be no where near the mountains even there was even a slight chance of snow.

Daniel A. 09-19-2018 03:48 PM

I think you will be fine with all season, ground temps are still to warm for snow to stick on roads, remember October 1st snow tires are mandatory for mountain driving in BC.

FRED SMAILES 09-19-2018 06:59 PM

If your not driving at night I would agree with ground temps being good to keep the snow melting.
I don't think #1 gets much above 5000 ft so if anything #1 hwy will be covered in salt and sand make sure your windshield washer is full.
But really, how long does it take to throw the snow tires on if you have them on other rims?

happy camping!
Fred

HawkBoler72 09-19-2018 08:37 PM

Thank you all for your suggestions/ideas.

This will be the first time I drive to the mountains during 'winter' time.

My winter tires are on rims and wouldn't take me too much time to swap them. Just curious to know if winter tires will make some big differences during this time. I usually put winter tires on around middle of October.

Glenn Baglo 09-19-2018 09:05 PM

I'd do it now instead of trying to outguess Mother Nature.

Jim Bennett 09-20-2018 05:32 AM

I would bet with caution you could use your all season. I doubt chains will be needed at all. Though, if temps are mostly under 7 using your winter tires certainly would not hurt, and could be helpful in some conditions.

When I picked up my 5.0TA in Chilliwack it was at the end of January. I drove back to Calgary without any issue with just my winter tires. I took chains but did not need them.

Early this year, late January, I headed down to Arizona and area for 6 weeks. On the advice of my tire shop I left the winter tires on my truck rather than switching to my all season as I would definitely see some winter conditions even though most of the time it would be quite hot. While not idea for performance down there, I was certainly glad to have them driving through cold and snow storms both ways.

thrifty bill 09-20-2018 06:23 AM

Me I would be worrying about it all trip long. Seriously. Ridiculous I know, but that is how I am wired. So I would change tires.

I took a trip to Key West last year, and where we were staying did not have any parking. In addition, the street it was on only allowed local residents to park on the street. I took my big F150 and was worried all the way down: "We are going to get there and not find a parking spot". Stupid, right? Sure enough, I found street parking one block away.

I usually don't worry, but if I fixate on something like "where I am going to park my truck?" it sticks with me until I am passed the event. Given you are already thinking about the tire issue, the worry juices for me would be flowing.

MK Evenson 09-20-2018 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HawkBoler72 (Post 717160)
Thank you all for your suggestions/ideas.

This will be the first time I drive to the mountains during 'winter' time.

My winter tires are on rims and wouldn't take me too much time to swap them. Just curious to know if winter tires will make some big differences during this time. I usually put winter tires on around middle of October.

I would NOT tow anything in the snow IF it was my 1st time driving in the mountains during winter conditions. I would run M/S ( mud and snow) rated tires with sipping. You don't mention if you have a 4WD system on the Sienna but you do mention chains. IMHO and for the safety of all involved, I would change TV to a 4WD or AWD with M/S rated tires for mountain driving in the snow season, AND I would not town my trailer intentionally, in the snow.
I am probably too conservative but it has kept me alive after many years of driving in the Sierras during much snow. To each his own!

Mark

Martin.P 09-20-2018 09:53 AM

Why push your luck? It can snow in the mountains at any time this time of the year. Put the snow tires on, and have piece of mind.

Jim Bennett 09-20-2018 10:51 AM

M+S tires are not winter tires despite their mud and snow name. Only a true winter tire, formulated to work in colder temperatures and on icy/snowy conditions is what is best for winter driving in most of Canada and lots of the northern US.

https://info.kaltire.com/difference-winter-vs-mud-snow/

Nothing at all wrong with towing in winter conditions, I do it most of the time with my cargo or dump trailer for work.

Daniel A. 09-20-2018 11:15 AM

From Oct. 1st on tires must have the snowflake symbol stamp to drive mountain roads in BC. M/S would not be legal the police do random spot checks and will turn cars around that don't have the snowflake symbol.

TomE11 09-20-2018 12:57 PM

When the signs on the pass says "drag chains required" your trailer needs chains. Based on the number of jackknifed trucks I have seen on these passes, I just would not drive in these conditions. This is a bit more severe than the OP was thinking of, but winter conditions can get worse very fast. Just my two bits.


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