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05-13-2016, 09:45 PM
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Member
Trailer: Bigfoot 17 ft
Posts: 41
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Bigfoot Front Awning latches
I'm hoping to source a fix for my front window fiberglass awning latch. One of the spring pin assemblies has broken & I'm hoping to find a fix. I've included a couple pics, but any Bigfoot owners out there will know what I'm talking about. I'm thinking surely by now somebody has run into this problem before. The latch pin assemblies are the same for my 1998 B17CB as they were for my previous 1987 Lil Bigfoot. Hoping to source a replacement, or the nessecary hog ring? to make what I've got to be repaired.Thanks in advance.
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05-13-2016, 10:14 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet (want 13 ft fiber glass
Posts: 2,316
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mcmaster.com is where I had purchased a rock shield support arm that had that type of fastener, but I can not remember the name of that fastener. Best of luck.
Dave & Paula
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05-13-2016, 10:54 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Jack L
Trailer: Sold the Bigfoot 17-Looking for a new one
Washington
Posts: 1,562
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You are lucky, you still have the plunger and spring. I had to find new springs and they were a little heavier wire and longer. I had to cut them down. I also made new retaining rings by cutting one coil off one of the new springs and reducing the diameter of the single coil by squeezing the single coil with pliers. To accommodate the new retaining rings, I enlarged the size of the groove in the plunger by chucking the plunger into an electric drill and slowly turn the plunger and carefully putting a fine hacksaw blade into the groove. Wish I had a hobby lathe. Clean up the parts and grease everything, then reassemble. I did this 3 years ago and it's worked fine since. The first one took me well over an hour. The second one took about 10 minutes. If you loose the plunger, you have more problems A new plunger could be made but would be lots of additional work.
It's quite common to have this part fail and I know several people, including me have looked for some complete replacement but no one has anything that will work. Best of luck. If you need spring numbers, PM me. I've still got the package somewhere in the trailer
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05-14-2016, 12:11 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: No Trailer Yet (want 13 ft fiber glass
Posts: 2,316
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I have purchased an assortment of snap rings at Harbor Freight, perhaps that will be all you need for your repair.
Dave & Paula
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05-14-2016, 01:25 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Kelly
Trailer: Trails West
Oregon
Posts: 3,046
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It would be useful for the archives for future issues with this part if someone would take their calipers and get the measurements of diameter for the snap ring and also the other dimensions for length. If it would help the group I can turn measured drawings of parts like that into CAD part drawings including any measurements and also add replacement part numbers and even put sources for the part right on the drawing. Just be sure to take accurate measurements
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05-14-2016, 02:49 AM
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Member
Trailer: Bigfoot 17 ft
Posts: 41
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I could kick myself because a few years ago I was told by guy at the now closed Langley RV Clinic another product that used this same type spring loaded pin fastener....it was part of a framework that was available and you would need to cut the frame off & that it was about $40 back then. I just cannot remember what the frame part was for, but some RV guy out there knows......
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05-14-2016, 06:21 AM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,416
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McMaster does show a good selection of snap rings, or retaining rings. Would the one listed as "low clearance" work? With the dimensions of the pin known, someone with a metal lathe could easily make one. A good auto parts store may have a snap ring assortment you could look through, my local one does.
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05-14-2016, 06:25 AM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,416
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Vintage Trailer Supply sells the whole support arm with that type pin latch for $15
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05-14-2016, 08:11 AM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1993 Bigfoot 17 ftCB / 2003 Honda Odyssey
Posts: 231
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Bigfoot Rock Guard Latch.
Many Machinists - Tool and Die makers would find this a simple job of a few minutes to repair. Luckily I had a local friend, but, before knowing this, I had drilled a small hole through the sleeve and pin to lock it in the up position and used a small cotter pin. I'd pull the cotter pin to open or close the latch and this worked for several years.
Good luck.
Mike .....>
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05-14-2016, 09:17 AM
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Senior Member
Name: Francois
Trailer: Bigfoot
British Columbia
Posts: 1,163
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hi Dwayne...
mine came with the same problem.....PO had 1/4" (I think) bolts that he used to secure the guard since there are threads inside the original housing.....it worked but not as "slick" as spring loaded.....that project has not made it to the top of my "list"....so I'm still using the bolt option..; I only need/use one on drivers side.....
funny though that when I clicked on your registry I found my "double" !!! and not that far away to boot....mine's a CB as well...a 97....a PO removed the AC and replaced it it with a fantastic fan + max air cover....and another max air cover over the bathroom....
your lucky...your graphics look like they survived way better than mine.....mine are ok on the sides but both front and back graphics are very degraded by sun/weather.....
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05-14-2016, 07:21 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: 1999 Scamp 13 ft and 2003 Bigfoot 17 ft (15B17CB)
Posts: 358
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Franswa,
If you ever do make up some of these please let us know as I also need a couple. Mine are shown in trainjunkies link. The ones made up for me by an acquaintance also failed, so for now I'm using something like Mike suggested. Seems this piece just does not hold up well.
Thanks,Tony
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Originally Posted by Franswa
mine came with the same problem.....PO had 1/4" (I think) bolts that he used to secure the guard since there are threads inside the original housing.....it worked but not as "slick" as spring loaded.....that project has not made it to the top of my "list"....so I'm still using the bolt option..; I only need/use one on drivers side.....
funny though that when I clicked on your registry I found my "double" !!! and not that far away to boot....mine's a CB as well...a 97....a PO removed the AC and replaced it it with a fantastic fan + max air cover....and another max air cover over the bathroom....
your lucky...your graphics look like they survived way better than mine.....mine are ok on the sides but both front and back graphics are very degraded by sun/weather.....
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05-14-2016, 07:42 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Escape 17 ft
Posts: 8,317
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For what it's worth, this is the clip on my 2008 Escape. But, manufacturer stopped making the rock guard. You could try to track it down through Escape.
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05-14-2016, 09:38 PM
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Member
Trailer: Bigfoot 17 ft
Posts: 41
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Thanks Glen👍
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05-14-2016, 10:36 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Kelly
Trailer: Trails West
Oregon
Posts: 3,046
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OK, I have come up with the keywords for the part you need.
"hand retractable (spring) plunger"
I am pretty good at figuring out hardware and suppliers for items since it is part of my professional background in manufacturing.
The website below shows an example of the dimensions you are going to need to take from your existing parts to find a match for them. I have no idea if Bigfoot was using metric parts or standard inch measurements. If one of you is in the Seattle area we can meet up and I can take those measurements in person. That way we can get the measurements put into the archives and find a reliable source for a suitable replacement part.
Steel or Stainless Steel Pull Ring - Standard Length - Locking Plungers : Northwestern Tools :
In the diagram in the link above you will see mention of available with or without a locking element. The locking element is typically just a bit of nylon material in a hole that protrudes out into the thread area. This locking element would be good to have as it will help prevent the screw body from backing out of the hole and getting lost due to road vibration. But it would still allow you to remove and replace the part if needed at some future date.
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05-18-2016, 02:28 PM
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Senior Member
Trailer: Boler
Posts: 122
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I could use one new pin as well. The previous owner bent it trying to pry it. I also need to replace the wingnut tensioners. They are rusted and no longer work. Does anyone know how these work? There appears to be an aluminum ring in behind the wingnut that snugs up the tension. Mine doesn't release the tension. Sorry if I highjacked the original thread
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05-18-2016, 11:32 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Kelly
Trailer: Trails West
Oregon
Posts: 3,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Collins
I could use one new pin as well. The previous owner bent it trying to pry it. I also need to replace the wingnut tensioners. They are rusted and no longer work. Does anyone know how these work? There appears to be an aluminum ring in behind the wingnut that snugs up the tension. Mine doesn't release the tension. Sorry if I highjacked the original thread
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you can find them in various places on the internet such as McMaster Carr.
keywords are "hand retractable (spring) plunger" You need to take measurements to match it up to the product specifics such as thread profile, length of body, length of tip, etc.
McMaster-Carr
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08-28-2016, 06:58 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Name: Stu
Trailer: 2003 21RB Bigfoot
Coos Bay, Oregon
Posts: 115
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Hi - New Bigfoot owner here (2002 25B21R). One of my latches is gone and the other is missing the spring and clip.
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Originally Posted by mary and bob
Vintage Trailer Supply sells the whole support arm with that type pin latch for $15
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I've searched on VTS and can't find this. Mind posting up a link? Thanks.
I'm thinking of installing rubber latches like this:
What do you think? I could shove it a little farther back if I cut the edge molding. Comments?
Here's a few pics of the "new" trailer:
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08-28-2016, 08:08 PM
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Senior Member
Name: bob
Trailer: 1996 Casita 17 Spirit Deluxe; 1946 Modernistic teardrop
New York
Posts: 5,416
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mary and bob
Vintage Trailer Supply sells the whole support arm with that type pin latch for $15
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Listed as "stone guard support arm" find it under "exterior" and then "window rock guard"
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08-28-2016, 09:01 PM
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Senior Member
Name: Stu
Trailer: 2003 21RB Bigfoot
Coos Bay, Oregon
Posts: 115
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OK, found it. Thanks.
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